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msforgetmenott (17 stories) (316 posts)
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8 years ago (2016-06-17)
Hello again Oleander,
Earlier in my life I had a cancer that had started to eat at my spine. I have had many correction surgeries, some with many months of recovery, screws nuts and bolts. I have been where you are, and each time I wonder if the wheelchair will be my main mode of transportation. Then when the nerves begin to repair you almost wish they wouldn't, as when they mend the pain is so much worse than the previous numbness. Yes, like a painful grab and twist of the foot, or flesh of the leg. Ripples of sharp pain or even an under the skin itch you are unable to scratch.
What I see is babies, some have wings, so many never lived and are horribly disfigured. They sit near or on my hospital bed. They are, with no doubt very real. Some are peaceful, most are not... They float. I tell no one, this is the first I have spoken of this.
Perhaps they are attracted to me as all my life, I melt when near an infant. Wanting to hold love and care for. However, no loving and caring Grandmother needs to view what I see, the memory never leaves you.
You are getting the best advice here on this site. Rook is dedicated in helping with this type of problem. I saw very little on this last hospital visit. (this hospital is one of the largest and best in this state.)
As I was wheeled out to the waiting car we passed a sign for the prenatal section just down from where I was at Orthopedic surgical. I do not know why I never made that connection before.
Chin up, Orleander, you will make a full recovery, your determination comes through in your words.
Again I wish you the best.
Jan
Earlier in my life I had a cancer that had started to eat at my spine. I have had many correction surgeries, some with many months of recovery, screws nuts and bolts. I have been where you are, and each time I wonder if the wheelchair will be my main mode of transportation. Then when the nerves begin to repair you almost wish they wouldn't, as when they mend the pain is so much worse than the previous numbness. Yes, like a painful grab and twist of the foot, or flesh of the leg. Ripples of sharp pain or even an under the skin itch you are unable to scratch.
What I see is babies, some have wings, so many never lived and are horribly disfigured. They sit near or on my hospital bed. They are, with no doubt very real. Some are peaceful, most are not... They float. I tell no one, this is the first I have spoken of this.
Perhaps they are attracted to me as all my life, I melt when near an infant. Wanting to hold love and care for. However, no loving and caring Grandmother needs to view what I see, the memory never leaves you.
You are getting the best advice here on this site. Rook is dedicated in helping with this type of problem. I saw very little on this last hospital visit. (this hospital is one of the largest and best in this state.)
As I was wheeled out to the waiting car we passed a sign for the prenatal section just down from where I was at Orthopedic surgical. I do not know why I never made that connection before.
Chin up, Orleander, you will make a full recovery, your determination comes through in your words.
Again I wish you the best.
Jan
WhiteOleander (2 stories) (15 posts)
8 years ago (2016-06-17)
RedWolf - No, it's not Jacob's. I can't quite remember the exact name, but it's something that has 'formic', at the end... And my seizures are NOT to do with the brain, hence it being a Central Nervous problem - the seizures are my Nervous System going crazy. I didn't have little damage, either - as I said previously, they were not sure I was going to be able to walk again. But I ignored the pain, and battled through it. I'm sorry if that is difficult for you to understand, but it is the simple truth. Yes, as you've experienced with your foot, the pain is horrific, but I have...well, in my mind, I'm not afraid of death, but I have people who would suffer a lot if I died. I couldn't let that happen. So I fought it, as much as I could, and I still am. Again, I'm sorry if you think I'm lying or something, but I'm really not. Besides, I wrote this story purely for finding help with my paranormal problem - I just wondered if my illness was linked, which is why it was mentioned in the first place. Again, I'm sorry I've offended you in some way.
RedWolf (31 stories) (1292 posts)
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8 years ago (2016-06-17)
WhiteOleander
The closest disease I could find is Jacobs diease. Is that what you have? I still maintain that if you had a seizure for 4 hours you would not have been in the hospital for just a month and come out with little damage. Seizures are basically misfiring of nerves in the brain, a 4 hour seizure would hit your automatic reflexes,breathing,swallowing,linking,etc. Also when it felt like someone grabbed your foot and twisted it, that was your nerves doing that. I have nerve damage in my leg,can't feel my leg from the knee down and my foot. Sometimes the foot goes into such a bad spasm it feels like someone put their thumb in the bottom of my foot and grasps it so hard the muscles make my foot ball up crossing bones and tendons and this can go on for more than 5 agonizing minutes or more. Nothing supernatural about it just nerves in my foot misfiring and it's the only time the foot hurts
Red
The closest disease I could find is Jacobs diease. Is that what you have? I still maintain that if you had a seizure for 4 hours you would not have been in the hospital for just a month and come out with little damage. Seizures are basically misfiring of nerves in the brain, a 4 hour seizure would hit your automatic reflexes,breathing,swallowing,linking,etc. Also when it felt like someone grabbed your foot and twisted it, that was your nerves doing that. I have nerve damage in my leg,can't feel my leg from the knee down and my foot. Sometimes the foot goes into such a bad spasm it feels like someone put their thumb in the bottom of my foot and grasps it so hard the muscles make my foot ball up crossing bones and tendons and this can go on for more than 5 agonizing minutes or more. Nothing supernatural about it just nerves in my foot misfiring and it's the only time the foot hurts
Red
WhiteOleander (2 stories) (15 posts)
8 years ago (2016-06-16)
msforgetmenott - Thank you so much for writing for me - especially when it sounds as if you yourself are going through hardships. It really helps to hear from someone who seems to have gone through similar experiences. I do hope that your recovery goes well! I've made sure to cleanse my room, as well as other precautions, such as positively charged crystals all over where I sleep. Here's hoping that it works!
Roylynx - That's incredibly interesting, thank you ever so much for your research. It's odd, because I do notice that the 'No Faces' or 'Shadow People' make a very odd breathing noise when close - perhaps this could be the water humidity of which you were speaking? I always keep my windows open and my room clean and cold, however, but perhaps the water links are deeper. I shall try to be as tough as I can - I won't let this illness beat me, so I won't let any spirits beat me, either!:)
Roylynx - That's incredibly interesting, thank you ever so much for your research. It's odd, because I do notice that the 'No Faces' or 'Shadow People' make a very odd breathing noise when close - perhaps this could be the water humidity of which you were speaking? I always keep my windows open and my room clean and cold, however, but perhaps the water links are deeper. I shall try to be as tough as I can - I won't let this illness beat me, so I won't let any spirits beat me, either!:)
roylynx (guest)
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8 years ago (2016-06-16)
Hello WhiteOlender! I myself have very little experience, alright almost none. I did a few researches for you and had a talk with a Tapirapé relative on my grandmother's side, in Tupi language shadow people or those mysterious figures is called yîara, combined word of water and lord. The Tapirapé believes that water has supernatural power, they have a saying; when something is a problem, use it to cure. Basically, as I have observed since the ancestors lived near the coast; some shamans will collect sea water to perform their way of cleansing since they believe that the ocean has the holiest water.
Many people and in some TV shows, spirits are powerful when there is water. Like shown in the Tupi language shadow people is basically called the "water lord", they are spirits with enough power, either to attack or protect as they haunt the living. Yes, very religious but at the same time, I found it coincidental, since whenever such even occur I hear people saying that that the air seems heavy, or their breathing became harder, logically, it could be explained as the humidity in the air might be high or became higher when spirits are around. Try to de-humidify the room you are in and keep everything clean (open all the windows and let the fresh air in) buy some plants too if you don't have any, at least you can feel that the atmosphere is different. Try that first, before your cleansing.
I am not born in a native family, nor am I a shaman, but I do believe that the atmosphere really affects how spirits behave and how a person feel or think. Try to be positive and do take care of yourself, as I know there are ranks for spirits those aggressive ones are usually ranked the lowest, but if a living person act weak or are afraid of them they can make you suffer. Be tough and strong against them, like in my experience long ago I act strong and so now nothing spiritual is affecting me lol.
Blessing from São Paulo
E.Lynx
Many people and in some TV shows, spirits are powerful when there is water. Like shown in the Tupi language shadow people is basically called the "water lord", they are spirits with enough power, either to attack or protect as they haunt the living. Yes, very religious but at the same time, I found it coincidental, since whenever such even occur I hear people saying that that the air seems heavy, or their breathing became harder, logically, it could be explained as the humidity in the air might be high or became higher when spirits are around. Try to de-humidify the room you are in and keep everything clean (open all the windows and let the fresh air in) buy some plants too if you don't have any, at least you can feel that the atmosphere is different. Try that first, before your cleansing.
I am not born in a native family, nor am I a shaman, but I do believe that the atmosphere really affects how spirits behave and how a person feel or think. Try to be positive and do take care of yourself, as I know there are ranks for spirits those aggressive ones are usually ranked the lowest, but if a living person act weak or are afraid of them they can make you suffer. Be tough and strong against them, like in my experience long ago I act strong and so now nothing spiritual is affecting me lol.
Blessing from São Paulo
E.Lynx
msforgetmenott (17 stories) (316 posts)
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8 years ago (2016-06-16)
Hi Oleander,
I very seldom write, but your appeal was very heart-felt. I am only four days home from a hospital stay and yet another surgery. Like you, I am sensitive and see things others do not. I have been where you are.
Firsthand I can tell you, the drugs given during a hospital stay, as well as being weakened and in poor health, can open and wake our minds in a negative manner, we see things, awful, real, things.
You have gone through, and are still on your way up and out of what might well be the very toughest hardship you may ever experience.
Rook's cleansing is most effective, as is his advice. Please, do just as he has written, I skipped a few steps the first time and that was a mistake. Follow his advice word for word.
In front of you is a stairway so long and high, you can not yet see the top. Look back, in your mind and you will see you have already climbed many steps. Reaching out to us was one step, just to put it to words. Each day mentally view this vision of steps, some are very small, but still progressive to the top.
Each is individual to only you.
You are young and each day stronger. You can do it. Yes, you can!
I send my kindest thoughts and well wishes.
Jan
I very seldom write, but your appeal was very heart-felt. I am only four days home from a hospital stay and yet another surgery. Like you, I am sensitive and see things others do not. I have been where you are.
Firsthand I can tell you, the drugs given during a hospital stay, as well as being weakened and in poor health, can open and wake our minds in a negative manner, we see things, awful, real, things.
You have gone through, and are still on your way up and out of what might well be the very toughest hardship you may ever experience.
Rook's cleansing is most effective, as is his advice. Please, do just as he has written, I skipped a few steps the first time and that was a mistake. Follow his advice word for word.
In front of you is a stairway so long and high, you can not yet see the top. Look back, in your mind and you will see you have already climbed many steps. Reaching out to us was one step, just to put it to words. Each day mentally view this vision of steps, some are very small, but still progressive to the top.
Each is individual to only you.
You are young and each day stronger. You can do it. Yes, you can!
I send my kindest thoughts and well wishes.
Jan
WhiteOleander (2 stories) (15 posts)
8 years ago (2016-06-16)
Thank you everyone for your kind advice - I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can, and will definitely try cleansing rituals - I really don't know why that didn't occur to me to try before, to be honest!
RedWolf, it's a very rare Central Nervous, so I'm not surprised you couldn't find it - my sister is training to be become a doctor and even she hadn't heard of it before I was diagnosed. It's a very strange one - have you heard of the fight and flight mechanism? Well, my body is in that constant state - and when I come across 'triggers' (we're not quite sure what they are yet, but I think that stress is definitely one), I have seizures. My motor skills were intact mostly, but I experienced so much muscle damage and bruising to my joint bones, they were not sure that my body would recover. I hope that explains a little ^-^
Rookdygin, that's a very interesting way of looking at the whole thing - I mean, I've always been very perceptive to the other side, and they think that I may have had this illness from birth. I'll try to find some people to teach me more control, thank you so much for your advice:)
Bibliothecarius, thank you - as mentioned before, I hadn't thought of cleansing rituals. I'll be laying out the salt tonight!
Roylynx, I'd be very interested to hear any more information you have on 'shadow people' - it's obviously a massive mystery for a lot of people...I've always been very respectful of graves and the like, and I always avoid anything with a 'bad vibe' when buying antiques. I have no idea why they've suddenly become aggressive... But perhaps cleansing will help. Maybe I should perform an exorcism? I'm not sure...
RedWolf, it's a very rare Central Nervous, so I'm not surprised you couldn't find it - my sister is training to be become a doctor and even she hadn't heard of it before I was diagnosed. It's a very strange one - have you heard of the fight and flight mechanism? Well, my body is in that constant state - and when I come across 'triggers' (we're not quite sure what they are yet, but I think that stress is definitely one), I have seizures. My motor skills were intact mostly, but I experienced so much muscle damage and bruising to my joint bones, they were not sure that my body would recover. I hope that explains a little ^-^
Rookdygin, that's a very interesting way of looking at the whole thing - I mean, I've always been very perceptive to the other side, and they think that I may have had this illness from birth. I'll try to find some people to teach me more control, thank you so much for your advice:)
Bibliothecarius, thank you - as mentioned before, I hadn't thought of cleansing rituals. I'll be laying out the salt tonight!
Roylynx, I'd be very interested to hear any more information you have on 'shadow people' - it's obviously a massive mystery for a lot of people...I've always been very respectful of graves and the like, and I always avoid anything with a 'bad vibe' when buying antiques. I have no idea why they've suddenly become aggressive... But perhaps cleansing will help. Maybe I should perform an exorcism? I'm not sure...
RedWolf (31 stories) (1292 posts)
8 years ago (2016-06-15)
WhiteOleander,
What kind of Central Nervous System disease do you have? I trolled the internet and could only find a handful that are fatal and none of your symptoms fit any of them.
I have never heard of a person having a seizure for 4 hours and only spent a month in the hospital, and with full fine motor skills intact to boot 🤔. Perhaps the doctor meant that if you have a seizure like that again you only have a 30% chance of living.
Best Wishes in your ongoing recovery and please listen to Rook.
Red
What kind of Central Nervous System disease do you have? I trolled the internet and could only find a handful that are fatal and none of your symptoms fit any of them.
I have never heard of a person having a seizure for 4 hours and only spent a month in the hospital, and with full fine motor skills intact to boot 🤔. Perhaps the doctor meant that if you have a seizure like that again you only have a 30% chance of living.
Best Wishes in your ongoing recovery and please listen to Rook.
Red
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+4
8 years ago (2016-06-15)
Your statement at the end of these experiences caught my attention...
You stated...
"I'm scared because I'm aware that I still have a 70% chance of becoming sicker and dying. Are they attempting to increase this chance, as they've suddenly become more aggressive? Or does it mean my body is failing without me realising? I don't know, but I really hope that someone on here can help me and shed some light on this...Please."
Your long term illness, a central nervous system illness may, MAY, may (opinion here) just have altered your perceptions enough you can see across the veil. This does not mean you are 'closer' to dying, not at all. However, like a psychic or medium your medical condition allows you to see these spirits/entitles. However being 'illness based' and not 'natural/trained ability based' it is not as clear as a 'seer's' ability... Or even the natural ability of a child.
Here is an idea, if there is a Metaphysical Store, Psychic book store near you see if they teach classes on mediumship (well its a word now... 😉) If so go to them, explain what's happening and see if they will teach you control and/or how to 'close' yourself off.
On my profile there is a Cleansing and Shielding Method that may give you some measure of comfort, however in your case I think you need... Well MORE training.
Thanks for sharing and I hope I made some kind of sense. Please ask any questions you may have.
Respectfully,
Rook
You stated...
"I'm scared because I'm aware that I still have a 70% chance of becoming sicker and dying. Are they attempting to increase this chance, as they've suddenly become more aggressive? Or does it mean my body is failing without me realising? I don't know, but I really hope that someone on here can help me and shed some light on this...Please."
Your long term illness, a central nervous system illness may, MAY, may (opinion here) just have altered your perceptions enough you can see across the veil. This does not mean you are 'closer' to dying, not at all. However, like a psychic or medium your medical condition allows you to see these spirits/entitles. However being 'illness based' and not 'natural/trained ability based' it is not as clear as a 'seer's' ability... Or even the natural ability of a child.
Here is an idea, if there is a Metaphysical Store, Psychic book store near you see if they teach classes on mediumship (well its a word now... 😉) If so go to them, explain what's happening and see if they will teach you control and/or how to 'close' yourself off.
On my profile there is a Cleansing and Shielding Method that may give you some measure of comfort, however in your case I think you need... Well MORE training.
Thanks for sharing and I hope I made some kind of sense. Please ask any questions you may have.
Respectfully,
Rook
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1091 posts)
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8 years ago (2016-06-15)
Greetings, Oleander;
I'm glad you came back with your update.
Ritual cleansings and blessings will help to keep negative influences or spirits out, but first you need a protective barrier or shielding around your home a.s.a.p. Yes, you've got an odd gift, and you've tried to avoid focusing upon the entities which go unnoticed by everyone else, but once they cross the line to aggressive behavior you've got to kick them out. Brick dust, salt, chalk, and other traditional substances may been used to set a boundary for spiritual energy (depending upon your beliefs, or the beliefs/rituals of the individual who creates the boundary for you: be careful trying to draw chalk lines on the pavement while you're balancing on crutches!) In this ritual, methodology is less significant than your intention to mark your territory and to keep the unwanted entities out.
This is a situation in which you need to show them who is the boss, and you need to get their attention as soon as possible. If what you've related to us is accurate, then having one of these individuals twist your foot while you are lying in bed is not a good sign. You have enough to worry about without negative paranormal influences, too!
Take care
Biblio.
I'm glad you came back with your update.
Ritual cleansings and blessings will help to keep negative influences or spirits out, but first you need a protective barrier or shielding around your home a.s.a.p. Yes, you've got an odd gift, and you've tried to avoid focusing upon the entities which go unnoticed by everyone else, but once they cross the line to aggressive behavior you've got to kick them out. Brick dust, salt, chalk, and other traditional substances may been used to set a boundary for spiritual energy (depending upon your beliefs, or the beliefs/rituals of the individual who creates the boundary for you: be careful trying to draw chalk lines on the pavement while you're balancing on crutches!) In this ritual, methodology is less significant than your intention to mark your territory and to keep the unwanted entities out.
This is a situation in which you need to show them who is the boss, and you need to get their attention as soon as possible. If what you've related to us is accurate, then having one of these individuals twist your foot while you are lying in bed is not a good sign. You have enough to worry about without negative paranormal influences, too!
Take care
Biblio.
roylynx (guest)
+1
8 years ago (2016-06-14)
Wow, very odd and very interesting. I have read your other story as well.
So many stories that I have heard about shadow people, many of them kind of links, they sound kind of like the Grim Ripper at the same time a guardian.
Also, I have read a story posted here about a no face ghost by another person. I had suggested cleaning the place, in his case.
Your story is a little different since it's not occasional but it seems to be very aggressive against you. Did you step on someone's grave accidentally or own any antiques?
Blessing from São Paulo
E.Lynx
So many stories that I have heard about shadow people, many of them kind of links, they sound kind of like the Grim Ripper at the same time a guardian.
Also, I have read a story posted here about a no face ghost by another person. I had suggested cleaning the place, in his case.
Your story is a little different since it's not occasional but it seems to be very aggressive against you. Did you step on someone's grave accidentally or own any antiques?
Blessing from São Paulo
E.Lynx
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I don't know what you've been told but your Central Nervous system is in your BRAIN. Seizures begin in your BRAIN. I understand completely, a first year med student can tell you where the Central Nervous System is and what it controls. I have nothing against you I am just trying to understand your disease. You have not insulted me you just don't understand you're disease. I talked to one of my many doctors all friends today all that deal with Neuro science. He has never heard of your disease but he said he hasn't seen your chart so he couldn't guess but suggested (note I said suggested) you are having optical hallucinations. He also said you were very lucky to survive your 4 hour seizure and that you should never be alone in case another seizure happens again.
Regards
Red