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DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Pjod, my first instinct was to dig my heels in and suggest that this entity still may have attached to him from home and just chose to show itself then, but after reading several other related stories in which people described this entity in verbatim, I am not so sure. I think I will do some more research, and hopefully uncover some more possibilities. I am actually really enjoying the mystery of trying to figure out what this is, and I truly hope I can find something that will help.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
some folks below keep mentioning his home (past) being the source of this haunt, when his first encounter was on the road in Va. The home episodes happened later, in the New Orleans area... That being a hot bed for Voodoo, it's not surprising he went that route for an answer. I hope he comes back to detail a lot of these questions we have.
Dan_Paranormal (1 stories) (74 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Aussiedaz has a very good point about laughing at the things that this being is throwing at you. To me negative spirits are almost like bullies, all bullies are cowards deep down. Whatever this thing is though I've rarely heard of such potent and powerful incidents. There was something very interesting that you said at one point of your story. The part when the spirit was observing you for like 5 minutes and then it looked over to the bathroom and moved away. I think that whatever this is can be beaten. You have more on your side than what appears and when something like this happens it's a true test to ourselves.
But you cannot deny that all people are strong inside and out, mentally and physically. Nothing that lies away from the fabric of our structures can change that. This spirit thinks that it has the 'right' to try and play with you and to toy with you but it will not beat you. Something like this counts on you getting into a worse state, but a thought can be very powerful. Knowing that you will win and beat it and shift its burden from your life is one of the most effective approaches you can take. A healthy mind means a healthy life.
I hope you come back O/P and update us I'd like to know how things have developed since. Good luck and take care.
But you cannot deny that all people are strong inside and out, mentally and physically. Nothing that lies away from the fabric of our structures can change that. This spirit thinks that it has the 'right' to try and play with you and to toy with you but it will not beat you. Something like this counts on you getting into a worse state, but a thought can be very powerful. Knowing that you will win and beat it and shift its burden from your life is one of the most effective approaches you can take. A healthy mind means a healthy life.
I hope you come back O/P and update us I'd like to know how things have developed since. Good luck and take care.
sarahmariacecilia (3 stories) (105 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Wow, D/A that information seems to be right on. I just read over all of it and the description of Damballah, especially the white mask and snakes seems to fit the bill. I can't wait to hear the O/P's response... Hopefully all of your researching helped him out with trying to figure out what this being is. Very interesting read too, thank you.
Haunted1, I am really getting the voodoo feel from the description. I don't think it wants to harm you, and I do think it is just trying to get your attention and manifest it being there with the contact it has had with you. In either one of the links D/A posted or a link that was located on one of the pages, I saw that in voodoo, it is frowned upon to harm snakes, they are thought of in high regard. So, maybe this is why the figure was doing the "no, no" gesture when you were screaming from the snakes being in your bed as if to say, do not try to harm them? Just a suggestion.
I hope you find your answers soon and reach a place of peace.
Haunted1, I am really getting the voodoo feel from the description. I don't think it wants to harm you, and I do think it is just trying to get your attention and manifest it being there with the contact it has had with you. In either one of the links D/A posted or a link that was located on one of the pages, I saw that in voodoo, it is frowned upon to harm snakes, they are thought of in high regard. So, maybe this is why the figure was doing the "no, no" gesture when you were screaming from the snakes being in your bed as if to say, do not try to harm them? Just a suggestion.
I hope you find your answers soon and reach a place of peace.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
I am also curious as to why the second sources you sought for help were Voodoo practitioners... Is there any particular reason that you felt that they could help you above anyone else? I understand that the blessing did not work for you, but why voodoo? Was there anything that happened or any clues that tipped you off that it may have been that, or was it just because that is the next best thing locally available? I do think this entity ties into that, particularly because of the use of snakes as symbolism.
I found this excerpt online: http://people.howstuffworks.com/voodoo3.htm
"Snakes, which many people find frightening, also play a part in some Voodoo ceremonies and Voodoo symbolism. For example, in Haiti, snakes are associated with one of the most powerful loa, known as Damballah. For this reason, followers often use images of the Catholic Saint Patrick that incorporate snakes to represent Damballah."
To elaborate on loa:
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa
"The Loa (also Lwa or L'wha) are the spirits of the voodoo religion practiced in Louisiana, Haiti, Benin, and other parts of the world. They are also referred to as Myst
I found this excerpt online: http://people.howstuffworks.com/voodoo3.htm
"Snakes, which many people find frightening, also play a part in some Voodoo ceremonies and Voodoo symbolism. For example, in Haiti, snakes are associated with one of the most powerful loa, known as Damballah. For this reason, followers often use images of the Catholic Saint Patrick that incorporate snakes to represent Damballah."
To elaborate on loa:
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa
"The Loa (also Lwa or L'wha) are the spirits of the voodoo religion practiced in Louisiana, Haiti, Benin, and other parts of the world. They are also referred to as Myst
cosmogal926 (9 stories) (1223 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
[at] Aussie, that is a great point to bring up about fighting it with his mind instead of yelling, cursing, and using physical force. Usually anger and negativity fuels these entities and they gain more power from it.
Haunted1, I do hope you try all the advice given here. Rook and Aussie have a lot of experience so you can trust that they won't steer you wrong. I still feel that this was brought upon you. Can you think of anything that might have unintentionally set this off? Could there be someone you had a falling out with, like a business partner or friend that would want to seek revenge? I know that sounds crazy, but people are into all types of weird things these days.
Here is a link of protection prayers against evil.
Http://www.stmichael.pair.com/prayers.html
I also think it wouldn't hurt to get an evil eye protection amulet. Not one from Amazon, a real one.
I'm not saying it will be 100% effective, but it could help to put your fear at ease.
Please reply and let us know how things are going.
Thanks,
Cosmo ❤
Haunted1, I do hope you try all the advice given here. Rook and Aussie have a lot of experience so you can trust that they won't steer you wrong. I still feel that this was brought upon you. Can you think of anything that might have unintentionally set this off? Could there be someone you had a falling out with, like a business partner or friend that would want to seek revenge? I know that sounds crazy, but people are into all types of weird things these days.
Here is a link of protection prayers against evil.
Http://www.stmichael.pair.com/prayers.html
I also think it wouldn't hurt to get an evil eye protection amulet. Not one from Amazon, a real one.
I'm not saying it will be 100% effective, but it could help to put your fear at ease.
Please reply and let us know how things are going.
Thanks,
Cosmo ❤
cecil04 (6 stories) (62 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Wow!
What a story!
And wow!
What a discussion!
Me too I could not put any label on that entity and because of my limited knowledge about angels, demons, voodoo or such... I cannot even try to give a detailed explanation about what this might be in the end.
But, despite all discussions here about WHAT it could be or not be, let's not lose the present puzzle parts out of sight;
-> it appears in a (frankly said) non-friendly apparition (so to say it does everything to gain unconditional attention)
-> it actively communicates with haunted1 (!)
-> it won't stop coming back (therefore its message must be of certain importance)
-> it seems to be very powerful since it's able to manifest physically (the snakes, the scratches,...)
-> it seems to be interested ONLY in haunted1 (not too much in his wife or his kid, but only him)!
When reading the story (again and again, though), one fact is indeed eye-catching to me:
It waved its fingers like saying "no, no, don't do that" and it did that together with the "snake-incident"! (I see the the snakes here as some kind of "reminder" like "HEY! Listen to me! How clear could I get?!" or such - sorry for that admittedly vague interpretation)
So... Don't do what?
Don't try to fight me?
Don't do SOMETHING again?
Stop doing SOMETHING?
I have to stick back on what Javelina said in one of her posts: "what did you not tell us about/around that whole story"?
I cannot help, but also my guts tell me that there must be something (maybe in the past) that this entity is referring to!
Also DeviousAngel's theory about possible former landlords or such (as far as I understood and put into very generalizing words now... Please scroll down to find her comment!) gives a good hint for me on this opinion!
There definitely seems to be some kind of message!
The reason why "it" still keeps on showing up might just be because the message was not yet recieved/understood by haunted1!
At first, I would also perform the ritual that Rook was talking about, but bottom line I would try to find out (think about it intensly, do some research maybe) what this "message" might be or could be referring to.
Somehow I also don't have the impression that this is some kind of "demon" or something (even though I lack of a definition of or experience about those), I mean nothing that wants to "possess" haunted1 - if it was some kind of these beings, it would have chosen way easier/more deceitful ways and it would not care about communicating in any way, for what? (the comments here about that topic were very plausible, thanks on that)!
I would continue trying to find out what "it" could "mean" - there simply must be some reason!
Anyway, I think it's about time to read some statement of haunted1 himself, before we all go on into further quarrels about what all this might be about and its origins!
Sorry I couldn't be of great help, but I hope my opinion is at least some useful contribution:)!
😊❤
What a story!
And wow!
What a discussion!
Me too I could not put any label on that entity and because of my limited knowledge about angels, demons, voodoo or such... I cannot even try to give a detailed explanation about what this might be in the end.
But, despite all discussions here about WHAT it could be or not be, let's not lose the present puzzle parts out of sight;
-> it appears in a (frankly said) non-friendly apparition (so to say it does everything to gain unconditional attention)
-> it actively communicates with haunted1 (!)
-> it won't stop coming back (therefore its message must be of certain importance)
-> it seems to be very powerful since it's able to manifest physically (the snakes, the scratches,...)
-> it seems to be interested ONLY in haunted1 (not too much in his wife or his kid, but only him)!
When reading the story (again and again, though), one fact is indeed eye-catching to me:
It waved its fingers like saying "no, no, don't do that" and it did that together with the "snake-incident"! (I see the the snakes here as some kind of "reminder" like "HEY! Listen to me! How clear could I get?!" or such - sorry for that admittedly vague interpretation)
So... Don't do what?
Don't try to fight me?
Don't do SOMETHING again?
Stop doing SOMETHING?
I have to stick back on what Javelina said in one of her posts: "what did you not tell us about/around that whole story"?
I cannot help, but also my guts tell me that there must be something (maybe in the past) that this entity is referring to!
Also DeviousAngel's theory about possible former landlords or such (as far as I understood and put into very generalizing words now... Please scroll down to find her comment!) gives a good hint for me on this opinion!
There definitely seems to be some kind of message!
The reason why "it" still keeps on showing up might just be because the message was not yet recieved/understood by haunted1!
At first, I would also perform the ritual that Rook was talking about, but bottom line I would try to find out (think about it intensly, do some research maybe) what this "message" might be or could be referring to.
Somehow I also don't have the impression that this is some kind of "demon" or something (even though I lack of a definition of or experience about those), I mean nothing that wants to "possess" haunted1 - if it was some kind of these beings, it would have chosen way easier/more deceitful ways and it would not care about communicating in any way, for what? (the comments here about that topic were very plausible, thanks on that)!
I would continue trying to find out what "it" could "mean" - there simply must be some reason!
Anyway, I think it's about time to read some statement of haunted1 himself, before we all go on into further quarrels about what all this might be about and its origins!
Sorry I couldn't be of great help, but I hope my opinion is at least some useful contribution:)!
😊❤
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
[at] Aussie,
I remember that one. That is something I hadn't thought of either, and it makes sense. Because it is playing with him now. The wagging of the finger, getting up close to his face when he's trying to sleep, and the snakes. It does sound like it's showing off and feeling proud of itself now.
Good call.
Jav
I remember that one. That is something I hadn't thought of either, and it makes sense. Because it is playing with him now. The wagging of the finger, getting up close to his face when he's trying to sleep, and the snakes. It does sound like it's showing off and feeling proud of itself now.
Good call.
Jav
Morticia1 (6 stories) (162 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
😊 rook I for one thank you for being there and for your advice. You along with daz granny JustCurious and a few others from this site along with a few from other sites I truly do appreciate. I would rather have your ritual on hand and not need it rather than need it and not have it 😁
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Morticia1,
You are more than welcome love... I put it out there to be used and shared...It's basic enough anyone can use it... Be they Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Atheist... Well whatever... And that's what is truly remarkable about it... I 'know' a few things about myself and one of them is that I'm around to help people... Weather that is purely by advice... Or if they ask me to become more 'involved'... All at 'No Charge'...
So by all means copy away and share it. I'm Flattered that you 'love' it. 😳
Respectfully,
Rook
You are more than welcome love... I put it out there to be used and shared...It's basic enough anyone can use it... Be they Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Atheist... Well whatever... And that's what is truly remarkable about it... I 'know' a few things about myself and one of them is that I'm around to help people... Weather that is purely by advice... Or if they ask me to become more 'involved'... All at 'No Charge'...
So by all means copy away and share it. I'm Flattered that you 'love' it. 😳
Respectfully,
Rook
Morticia1 (6 stories) (162 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
daz and rook have excellent advice/insight into this. Please do take it and let us know haunted1
[at] rook I hope you don't mind but I love the cleansing ritual you advise people to do and have taken the liberty to copy and print it out to have on hand should I ever need it 😊
[at] rook I hope you don't mind but I love the cleansing ritual you advise people to do and have taken the liberty to copy and print it out to have on hand should I ever need it 😊
aussiedaz (19 stories) (1566 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Cheers Rook, I was going through this thread and I could see where you were coming from and felt it was important just to add something of value in support... Cheers again Rook.
Daz
Daz
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
aussiedaz,
Interesting concept... And it may very well my be something like this...
I also like your advice... (I'll quote you)
"But try going on the attack with your mind... You can take away the power this experience or entity has over you a by not fearing it at all... Easy said I know... But honestly if I had an experience like yours tonight, I would start laughing and I have done exactly that on my own experiences of such a nature over the previous years and the power of that experience dissolves very quick..."
This is very good and sound advice, part of that could be the ritual I've proposed giving the O/P the mind set needed to just as you have stated...'laugh at it'...this takes it's power away... And the strength to do that has to 'start' somewhere.
Thanks for your insight...
Respectfully,
Rook
Interesting concept... And it may very well my be something like this...
I also like your advice... (I'll quote you)
"But try going on the attack with your mind... You can take away the power this experience or entity has over you a by not fearing it at all... Easy said I know... But honestly if I had an experience like yours tonight, I would start laughing and I have done exactly that on my own experiences of such a nature over the previous years and the power of that experience dissolves very quick..."
This is very good and sound advice, part of that could be the ritual I've proposed giving the O/P the mind set needed to just as you have stated...'laugh at it'...this takes it's power away... And the strength to do that has to 'start' somewhere.
Thanks for your insight...
Respectfully,
Rook
aussiedaz (19 stories) (1566 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Haunted, I agree with the others in regards to hearing your response to some of the advise already given as it may help the community here better understand and resolve your problem... Although I can't rule out this experience may be an entity that has chosen you to torment or do I rule out what Rook has proposed as it not being as evil as what you may think... It is possible that this entity is being pulled out of your own sub conscious... Think about it... Why would it pick on the strongest family member in the house if it was a separate entity there looking to do harm... There is Evil in the next realm and it is my belief they know how to play with our imagination and manipulate our minds to give the impression they are an actual life form... The hairs standing on the back of your neck I believe are not caused by this figure or entity... To me they represent your own feelings of concern and fear which may just enable this entity to come to life just at the brink of sleep or waking up...I'll tell you how I know this... Recently I had a visitor in my room for about 3 hours... During this time I was pretty relaxed and willing to communicate and trying to do so without disturbing my wife... But at the same token my wife who was sharing the experience unknowingly was feeling pretty unsettled and uncomfortable for the duration of the experience and kept waking up at certain times asking me what is going on... Now in saying that over the years I have had some of those experiences not the same as yours but similar, including sleep paralysis so I understand how confronting these experiences are... What works for me with experiences like yours is reverse psychology... Yes, your willing to go on the attack physically and good on you... But try going on the attack with your mind... You can take away the power this experience or entity has over you a by not fearing it at all... Easy said I know... But honestly if I had an experience like yours tonight, I would start laughing and I have done exactly that on my own experiences of such a nature over the previous years and the power of that experience dissolves very quick, that is how I know these experience are coming from our sub conscious, because consciously I could control my sub conscious fears back into submission... The mind is a very powerful tool and if you let it run on its own it can present these experiences your having... Believe it is voodoo or evil you are playing into the hand of whatever is fuelling your experience.
Morticia1 (6 stories) (162 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-16)
Well I'm with everyone with the exception of Mabs_Sith_Lord.
Haunted1 if I were in your shoes id be taking rooks advice and use the cleansing ritual. Though I am christian I'm not overly religious but prayer wouldn't hurt either 😊
Haunted1 if I were in your shoes id be taking rooks advice and use the cleansing ritual. Though I am christian I'm not overly religious but prayer wouldn't hurt either 😊
taz890 (12 stories) (1380 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
haunted1 wow! What a experience!
I hope you take rookgins advice and that it helps.
What ever this thing is (and I don't think its demonic) I hope you ride yourself of it as soon as you possibly can.
I will be keeping an eye out for any updates I hope you add
Carl
I hope you take rookgins advice and that it helps.
What ever this thing is (and I don't think its demonic) I hope you ride yourself of it as soon as you possibly can.
I will be keeping an eye out for any updates I hope you add
Carl
Mabs_Sith_Lord (72 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Wow! I think I lost 8 karma points today, by posting on this one story here today: (
Sorry if I offended anyone; just wanted to get my point across that's all. Nothing bad in that is there?
Anyway, coming back to the story. I don't know, there's just something about it - I keep coming back - I've read it over two times now, I think its the entity itself, I've never read, heard about nor seen something so - how shall we say - unique! The porcelain face, black-holes-for-eyes, long hair... I agree with Cosmogal; this story does reek of black magic...
I would really like to hear some input from the author.
Thanks to all, and I think its about time I move onto another story! Lol!
MSL
Sorry if I offended anyone; just wanted to get my point across that's all. Nothing bad in that is there?
Anyway, coming back to the story. I don't know, there's just something about it - I keep coming back - I've read it over two times now, I think its the entity itself, I've never read, heard about nor seen something so - how shall we say - unique! The porcelain face, black-holes-for-eyes, long hair... I agree with Cosmogal; this story does reek of black magic...
I would really like to hear some input from the author.
Thanks to all, and I think its about time I move onto another story! Lol!
MSL
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
+4
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
I am very intrigued by your tale here, and I plan to try and do some research as to what this entity might be. I firstly have to say that I am sorry you are being tormented by this entity and I do not think you are crazy. Once we put that notion aside, perhaps we can get a bit closer to the truth of the matter.
If you can, check out this website and see if any of these masks strike a similarity to your entity's mask:
Http://www.prm.ox.ac.uk/maskscarvings.html
These, as you can see form the site, are West African masks. The reason I bring up West African is because you mention seeing this entity at your home in Louisiana. Many of the original black settlers of Louisiana were slaves uprooted from West Africa. Do you think that this haunting could possibly be a spirit invoked by someone else who lived there before you, or lived on the land before you? If so, that could explain why the voodoo practitioners wanted nothing to do with it.
If you can, check out this website and see if any of these masks strike a similarity to your entity's mask:
Http://www.prm.ox.ac.uk/maskscarvings.html
These, as you can see form the site, are West African masks. The reason I bring up West African is because you mention seeing this entity at your home in Louisiana. Many of the original black settlers of Louisiana were slaves uprooted from West Africa. Do you think that this haunting could possibly be a spirit invoked by someone else who lived there before you, or lived on the land before you? If so, that could explain why the voodoo practitioners wanted nothing to do with it.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
[at] Cosmo,
Exactly! That "Old Black Magic" aspect really does stand out, now that you mention it. Disappearing from the back seat only to show up under the streetlight. Wagging it's finger at him. The snakes. Yeah, I think you've got something there.
Jav
Exactly! That "Old Black Magic" aspect really does stand out, now that you mention it. Disappearing from the back seat only to show up under the streetlight. Wagging it's finger at him. The snakes. Yeah, I think you've got something there.
Jav
cosmogal926 (9 stories) (1223 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
[at] Jav, I agree with you. This story is very different from what we are used to. The o/p's experiences seem to be isolated around him, and even though his wife may be catching glimpses of what is going on it doesn't seem like she is having the same full on effect of them. It just has that very old, crafty, black magic, type of vibe to it. I am very interested to find out how this turns out.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
-1
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
[at] Cosmo,
I was wondering about that too. The costume/disguise aspect of the entity. Because whatever it is, I feel that is what will help define it's origin. I don't know a whole lot about voodoo, but I do know that women are prevalent in the higher seatings, so that seems to fit this entity so far. And the fact that the voodoo practitioners both went tearing out of there like their butts were on fire, might be another clue.
I must admit, this is a different case than we've seen around here in a while. And I for one, will be following how this shakes out.
Jav
I was wondering about that too. The costume/disguise aspect of the entity. Because whatever it is, I feel that is what will help define it's origin. I don't know a whole lot about voodoo, but I do know that women are prevalent in the higher seatings, so that seems to fit this entity so far. And the fact that the voodoo practitioners both went tearing out of there like their butts were on fire, might be another clue.
I must admit, this is a different case than we've seen around here in a while. And I for one, will be following how this shakes out.
Jav
ouijalad (1 stories) (11 posts)
-2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
ignore this MABS person, this story really give me the creeps, and I hope everything calms down or even better STOPS!, I'm a sceptic but the other week my 3 year old saw an old man and woman, and on sat evening a coaster just flew off the coffee table, is this a poltergiest? No windows were open and it flew at least 7 ft, I'm thinking of doing a ouija board, would this help or make things worse, please help
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
I'm at a loss for words. Wish there was an easy way to deal with this, for you and your family.
Keep us up to date.
Keep us up to date.
cosmogal926 (9 stories) (1223 posts)
+5
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
OMG, I am so sorry that you are going through this. It is completely terrifying. I honestly can not put a label on this entity and would have to go along with the Voodoo practioner that described it as something very old and very dark. The only thing I can think of is where you first saw it in Virginia. Do you know anything about the areas history? If the people who are professionals with Voodoo and Hoodoo don't want to touch this thing with a 10ft pole, it tells me that it has to be associated with some kind of craft. When you said the snakes appeared in the bed and that you were actually bit sounds like black magic to me. The porcelain mask and the hood could be the costume of a Voodoo priestess that once lived in the area of Virginia. I would do some heavy research on the area and find out everything you can. I think once you find out what it is, you will have the power to get rid of it. Please keep us posted and I will be praying for you. God Bless ❤
WiniPu4 (207 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Hello, Haunted1:
If I were in your shoes, I would have found my local exorcist (usually one in most areas) and would NOT have taken no for an answer. That being said, have you called paranormal groups in? Of course they're all different, but some do have demonologists, exorcists (or access to one that they can call upon in a pinch) and other trained professionals who can deal with this type of thing. I would start locally and fan out. There are some good ones out there who will actually travel. Exhaust them all until figuring it out/ridding yourself of it.
Oh, and btw... A voodoo practitioner would not have been my first choice for this type of "infestation".
No offense to voodoo practitioners, of course;)
Light&Love,
Wini
If I were in your shoes, I would have found my local exorcist (usually one in most areas) and would NOT have taken no for an answer. That being said, have you called paranormal groups in? Of course they're all different, but some do have demonologists, exorcists (or access to one that they can call upon in a pinch) and other trained professionals who can deal with this type of thing. I would start locally and fan out. There are some good ones out there who will actually travel. Exhaust them all until figuring it out/ridding yourself of it.
Oh, and btw... A voodoo practitioner would not have been my first choice for this type of "infestation".
No offense to voodoo practitioners, of course;)
Light&Love,
Wini
Mabs_Sith_Lord (72 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Rookdygin,
Thanks for explaining your views on why you feel the entity is not a demon. You have some interesting points - however, I feel it is difficult to really tell what this being is, whether malevolent, or benign, or just plain curious. I'd sure like to hear the author's views on what he feels this entity is, and his thoughts on our summation's too.
Cheers.
PS - thankyou for explaining your username - I have to say it not only is unique, but I like the meaning behind the words too, esp the Dygin or Djinn part! I am quite an avid reader on Djinn mythology, and Djinn encounters. A lot of questions I had, regarding possession, hauntings etc have been answered for me whilst researching this topic.
Two very interesting choice indeed!
Respectfully,
MABS
Thanks for explaining your views on why you feel the entity is not a demon. You have some interesting points - however, I feel it is difficult to really tell what this being is, whether malevolent, or benign, or just plain curious. I'd sure like to hear the author's views on what he feels this entity is, and his thoughts on our summation's too.
Cheers.
PS - thankyou for explaining your username - I have to say it not only is unique, but I like the meaning behind the words too, esp the Dygin or Djinn part! I am quite an avid reader on Djinn mythology, and Djinn encounters. A lot of questions I had, regarding possession, hauntings etc have been answered for me whilst researching this topic.
Two very interesting choice indeed!
Respectfully,
MABS
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+4
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Mabs_Sith_Lord,
One more thing... While it comes up as rookdygin it should be:
Rook Dygin: Rook = Ancient Bird of Lore / Wisdom.
Dygin (pronounced Gin) = play on words meaning the Eastern Jinn...magical, mystical beings from ancient Eastern teachings.
One more thing... While it comes up as rookdygin it should be:
Rook Dygin: Rook = Ancient Bird of Lore / Wisdom.
Dygin (pronounced Gin) = play on words meaning the Eastern Jinn...magical, mystical beings from ancient Eastern teachings.
LouSlips (10 stories) (979 posts)
+5
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
h1,
I've been the recipient of the attention of a very negative human spirit in the past... More than one, actually. What seems to be consistent is the ominous, dark, intimidating nature. Why? Because they want you to think they are badder than they real are, that they are from a realm worse than you can imagine.
Demonic, I'm not buying that one. Been there, too. From my very limited experience, they are the opposite. They are the lowest form of shiat. They don't show you something scary because you would do everything imaginable to force them out, unless you are deranged. They are masters in pretending to be something cute and cuddly, or something like a lost child, a harmless animal spirit, or a sexual provocature... Until they get their hooks in you.
Someone has definitely taken exception to you... Whether you figure that out or not, this isn"t something that you cannot get rid of.
Lou
I've been the recipient of the attention of a very negative human spirit in the past... More than one, actually. What seems to be consistent is the ominous, dark, intimidating nature. Why? Because they want you to think they are badder than they real are, that they are from a realm worse than you can imagine.
Demonic, I'm not buying that one. Been there, too. From my very limited experience, they are the opposite. They are the lowest form of shiat. They don't show you something scary because you would do everything imaginable to force them out, unless you are deranged. They are masters in pretending to be something cute and cuddly, or something like a lost child, a harmless animal spirit, or a sexual provocature... Until they get their hooks in you.
Someone has definitely taken exception to you... Whether you figure that out or not, this isn"t something that you cannot get rid of.
Lou
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Mabs_Sith_Lord,
I beg to differ... In my experience true Demonic Infestation happens over a long period of time. The 'Demon' thrives on the slow deliberate process of tearing down the good things in a persons life... Driving them to the 'brink', weakening them to the point that they have no defenses and then 'move in' literally, move in, to occupy the individual's body that they have so 'painstakingly' broke down to the point that they are able to 'take over'.
For some people the road may be short... As they tend to have traits that attract a Demon to them in the first place.
As my questions have not been answered yet, I remain 'on the fence' as to what this may be... But I truly do not 'FEEL' this is a Demon... If I thought it may be I would not have 'shouted you down' the way I did.
Yes the O/P has stated he has received physical marks from this 'thing' however they were on both forearms and not 'grouped' in that classic arrangement of '3'. He also stated he received marks from the 'snakes' in the bed... A situation his wife witnessed and thereby 'Validating' that what the O/P is going through is not just in his head... Which goes against the 'divide and conquer' and 'wreaked marriage' situation a demon would prefer.
I'll walk out on a limb here...it's sounds like this 'thing' is 'training' the O/P. It's doing things to him that bring out a 'fighting' response from him. As if it's preparing him for something. I'll be able to refine that better when (if) the O/P returns and answers the questions that have been asked... I will not 'investigate' any more than that unless I have permission from the O/P.
Bottom line is I DO NOT feel this 'thing' is 'Demonic', and those are my reasons why.
Respectfully,
Rook
I beg to differ... In my experience true Demonic Infestation happens over a long period of time. The 'Demon' thrives on the slow deliberate process of tearing down the good things in a persons life... Driving them to the 'brink', weakening them to the point that they have no defenses and then 'move in' literally, move in, to occupy the individual's body that they have so 'painstakingly' broke down to the point that they are able to 'take over'.
For some people the road may be short... As they tend to have traits that attract a Demon to them in the first place.
As my questions have not been answered yet, I remain 'on the fence' as to what this may be... But I truly do not 'FEEL' this is a Demon... If I thought it may be I would not have 'shouted you down' the way I did.
Yes the O/P has stated he has received physical marks from this 'thing' however they were on both forearms and not 'grouped' in that classic arrangement of '3'. He also stated he received marks from the 'snakes' in the bed... A situation his wife witnessed and thereby 'Validating' that what the O/P is going through is not just in his head... Which goes against the 'divide and conquer' and 'wreaked marriage' situation a demon would prefer.
I'll walk out on a limb here...it's sounds like this 'thing' is 'training' the O/P. It's doing things to him that bring out a 'fighting' response from him. As if it's preparing him for something. I'll be able to refine that better when (if) the O/P returns and answers the questions that have been asked... I will not 'investigate' any more than that unless I have permission from the O/P.
Bottom line is I DO NOT feel this 'thing' is 'Demonic', and those are my reasons why.
Respectfully,
Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
haunted1,
We're going to need your input here. Will be awaiting your reply.
Jav
We're going to need your input here. Will be awaiting your reply.
Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Look, all I'm getting to here is the dark aspect of the contact. What we consider evil and demonic may not hold that conotation to the being displaying itself the way it does. To me, it sounds like a disguise. Mask, dark robes, always at night...
It can't or won't show it's real image. Why?
Is it trying to fool him into believing it's demonic?
It can't or won't show it's real image. Why?
Is it trying to fool him into believing it's demonic?
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
-2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Well Mabs, then just replace Dark Angel in my post with Demon then.
It really gets to be a trial in patience some days with the whole "It's a Demon" crowd.
Jav
It really gets to be a trial in patience some days with the whole "It's a Demon" crowd.
Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
haunted1,
My thoughts are more in line with what Rook and Nidham are suggesting. It does seem as though this entity is trying to get you to pay attention. But I also wonder why it hasn't made any clear attempt to spell things out for you.
It's only consistent behavior so far, seems to be that of a stalker. It sticks around long enough to let you know it's for real, then it disappears.
There is something missing here. What haven't you told us? Is there anything else about this experience that stands out? Something you may feel is insignificant, could be more important than you originally thought.
Jav
My thoughts are more in line with what Rook and Nidham are suggesting. It does seem as though this entity is trying to get you to pay attention. But I also wonder why it hasn't made any clear attempt to spell things out for you.
It's only consistent behavior so far, seems to be that of a stalker. It sticks around long enough to let you know it's for real, then it disappears.
There is something missing here. What haven't you told us? Is there anything else about this experience that stands out? Something you may feel is insignificant, could be more important than you originally thought.
Jav
Mabs_Sith_Lord (72 posts)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Javelina,
If you read my post properly you'll find it wasn't me that brought up the subject of Dark Angels, it was a poster by the name of Nidham_Morgue!
In fact, I disagreed with him/her, as I firmly believe it is NOT a dark angel! Rather a demon, a suggestion that was met with howls of derision by a fellow poster Rookdygin!
So my views?
CASPER? NO
DARK ANGEL? HELL NO!
DEMON? YES!
I hope that clarifies things!
Take care
MABS SITH LORD
If you read my post properly you'll find it wasn't me that brought up the subject of Dark Angels, it was a poster by the name of Nidham_Morgue!
In fact, I disagreed with him/her, as I firmly believe it is NOT a dark angel! Rather a demon, a suggestion that was met with howls of derision by a fellow poster Rookdygin!
So my views?
CASPER? NO
DARK ANGEL? HELL NO!
DEMON? YES!
I hope that clarifies things!
Take care
MABS SITH LORD
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
-3
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
[at] Mabs_Sith_Lord,
OK, I'll bite. Where do you guys get this Dark Angel crap? The movies? TV? What? Because this little fairy tale you're weaving about a Dark Angel is just fantasy. A simple answer to a very complicated question.
STOP! This isn't a movie. This is reality. Your interpretation just doesn't hold water pal, sorry.
Jav
OK, I'll bite. Where do you guys get this Dark Angel crap? The movies? TV? What? Because this little fairy tale you're weaving about a Dark Angel is just fantasy. A simple answer to a very complicated question.
STOP! This isn't a movie. This is reality. Your interpretation just doesn't hold water pal, sorry.
Jav
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rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Mabs_Sith_Lord,
You hoped you helped? Holy Christ...IT'S A DEMON RUN...
WOLF, WOLF, WOLF THERE'S A WOLF! Does that help?
There was nothing 'DEMONIC' about any of the O/P's experiences. Yes he's been 'touched' and this 'thing' keeps showing up but... (sigh) Yes they have been frightening... But DEMONIC... Come on. You are entitled to your Opinion of course but to to SHOUT 'DEMON' from the rooftops... Give me a break...
Respectfully?,
Rook
You hoped you helped? Holy Christ...IT'S A DEMON RUN...
WOLF, WOLF, WOLF THERE'S A WOLF! Does that help?
There was nothing 'DEMONIC' about any of the O/P's experiences. Yes he's been 'touched' and this 'thing' keeps showing up but... (sigh) Yes they have been frightening... But DEMONIC... Come on. You are entitled to your Opinion of course but to to SHOUT 'DEMON' from the rooftops... Give me a break...
Respectfully?,
Rook
Mabs_Sith_Lord (72 posts)
-3
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Hi Haunted 1,
I have to respectfully disagree with the previous poster; this entity is NOT a dark angel, it is a very powerful demon.
There are different class of demons; mischevoius spirits mainly harmless (poltergesit actvity can sometimes be attributed to them), then your 'normal' demons who just like to scare us plain and simple, and then there are the powerful demons who you would not want to mess with. Your entity sounds to me like the latter of the three.
Now rarely will the powerful demon harrass a human unless it feels the person in question has wronged them in any way. It can be as trivial as 'stepping on its shadow', or disturbing its hangout, i.e graveyard, or abandoned building. Using an Ouija board can also make you a target.
Have you - prior to the attacks - visited a place like the ones I mentioned, and felt a sort of unease? Can you recall an incident, maybe a trip to another country, or place? Or maybe a person whom you know that might have a grudge against you? The reason I say this is because sometimes these demonic harrassment can be attributed to black magic. An uncle of mine had a very similar experience to your self, every time he tried to go to sleep demons wouldd attacl him. Even when he closeed his eyes he would see them. Soon after his family discovered that someone had summoned the demon viaa black magic to tormennt him. Thanks to prayer and a LOT of hard work; the demon did ffinally leave him, but not before making him a psychological wreck.
I hope your own matter does no esculate any further so mmuch so, you lose your wife over this demonic fiend. Speak to a priest. Try to do your own prayer, there are a lot of protective prayers you can say before going to sleep. Try to cleanse your house with sage, incense. Make it free of all impurities. If you've brought any second hand items in your home prior to the attacks, try to get rid of it. Or store it outside your bedroom. But your best bet like I mentioned, is to speak to a priest or exorcist he deals in this matter. Try to avoid voodoo priests, the reason the were afraid to help you is becuase they have a spirit helper or guide who helps them, and your demonic entity can sometimes threaten the spirit guide of the voodoo priest or priestess. But a exorcist/ priest does not have to worry about that, he's spiritual guide is God.
I hope this helps. And please keep us updated of any change!
Take care,
MABS SITH LORD
I have to respectfully disagree with the previous poster; this entity is NOT a dark angel, it is a very powerful demon.
There are different class of demons; mischevoius spirits mainly harmless (poltergesit actvity can sometimes be attributed to them), then your 'normal' demons who just like to scare us plain and simple, and then there are the powerful demons who you would not want to mess with. Your entity sounds to me like the latter of the three.
Now rarely will the powerful demon harrass a human unless it feels the person in question has wronged them in any way. It can be as trivial as 'stepping on its shadow', or disturbing its hangout, i.e graveyard, or abandoned building. Using an Ouija board can also make you a target.
Have you - prior to the attacks - visited a place like the ones I mentioned, and felt a sort of unease? Can you recall an incident, maybe a trip to another country, or place? Or maybe a person whom you know that might have a grudge against you? The reason I say this is because sometimes these demonic harrassment can be attributed to black magic. An uncle of mine had a very similar experience to your self, every time he tried to go to sleep demons wouldd attacl him. Even when he closeed his eyes he would see them. Soon after his family discovered that someone had summoned the demon viaa black magic to tormennt him. Thanks to prayer and a LOT of hard work; the demon did ffinally leave him, but not before making him a psychological wreck.
I hope your own matter does no esculate any further so mmuch so, you lose your wife over this demonic fiend. Speak to a priest. Try to do your own prayer, there are a lot of protective prayers you can say before going to sleep. Try to cleanse your house with sage, incense. Make it free of all impurities. If you've brought any second hand items in your home prior to the attacks, try to get rid of it. Or store it outside your bedroom. But your best bet like I mentioned, is to speak to a priest or exorcist he deals in this matter. Try to avoid voodoo priests, the reason the were afraid to help you is becuase they have a spirit helper or guide who helps them, and your demonic entity can sometimes threaten the spirit guide of the voodoo priest or priestess. But a exorcist/ priest does not have to worry about that, he's spiritual guide is God.
I hope this helps. And please keep us updated of any change!
Take care,
MABS SITH LORD
Nidham_Morgue (guest)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
I agree with your shadow people idea. I've seen quite a few ghosts that appear that way. The ones I refer to as either angels or demons are typically 3 dimensional, cloaked figures, or figures with suits and fedora-esque hats (hat men, I believe they're called). They seem to have more than enough power for a physical appearance, yet always seem almost wreathed in shadow, or simply blacked out. I've seen a number of these, and know a great many people in my area that have encountered them, of both types, and even with the best of intentions they can be scary as Hell itself.
I also agree that the fact it has not moved on is bothersome. What I fear is that its job is not done. I've seen an account where something truly foul was after someone, and a cloaked shadow with piercing white eyes followed the person around until the threat was apparently dealt with. Its appearance in this case is nothing less than fascinating though, and so is its mannerisms and apparent power (I admit to never hearing about one creating real snakes or anything similar, merely an illusion of them).
I also agree that the fact it has not moved on is bothersome. What I fear is that its job is not done. I've seen an account where something truly foul was after someone, and a cloaked shadow with piercing white eyes followed the person around until the threat was apparently dealt with. Its appearance in this case is nothing less than fascinating though, and so is its mannerisms and apparent power (I admit to never hearing about one creating real snakes or anything similar, merely an illusion of them).
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Nidham_Morgue,
Thank you for that explanation, and I agree with you... There is a reason that these visits are happening and I do not 'feel' this 'Entity' is Malevolent, as J.R.R. Tolkien put it..."a servant of the Enemy would look fairer and fell fouler"', but I still do not understand why it has not simply 'delivered' it message and moved on...
As far as Shadow People are concerned I feel there are various reasons for them... Ranging from simply not enough energy for the 'spirit' to appear as more than a shadow... All the way to potential thin spots in 'dimensional walls' that show us 'events' or shapes from another dimension' as shadows... Just a few thoughts... Again thank you for the explanation, I understand where you are coming from now.
Respectfully,
Rook
Thank you for that explanation, and I agree with you... There is a reason that these visits are happening and I do not 'feel' this 'Entity' is Malevolent, as J.R.R. Tolkien put it..."a servant of the Enemy would look fairer and fell fouler"', but I still do not understand why it has not simply 'delivered' it message and moved on...
As far as Shadow People are concerned I feel there are various reasons for them... Ranging from simply not enough energy for the 'spirit' to appear as more than a shadow... All the way to potential thin spots in 'dimensional walls' that show us 'events' or shapes from another dimension' as shadows... Just a few thoughts... Again thank you for the explanation, I understand where you are coming from now.
Respectfully,
Rook
Nidham_Morgue (guest)
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
I apologize for not elaborating on the term "dark angel". I always thought it was a bit more commonly known than it is. By this I refer to angels such as angels of death and the like; any angel that must do things commonly associated with evil, albeit for a genuinely good purpose. I've found that they are about as common as demons might be, and can be as frightening. However as scary as they seem, they always seek to benefit humans in various ways. I believe they're typically seen as "shadow people", and it seems that many people have seen them and been helped by them. This one is intriguing to say the least, but it simply doesn't sound truly malevolent. It seems to have a motive, but what that is is ambiguous, to say the least. I would still say a simple acknowledgment would be a good approach, especially considering the consequences of previous responses.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
haunted1,
I have gone back and re-read your original comment so that I could have that in mind as I read this a second and then a third time...
This 'visitor' of yours does seem like it may have some sort of message for you, but why it's not just delivering it and moving on is, 'odd' to say the least. I must say this now... DO NOT agree with Nidham_Morgue, as well spoken as they are I have never heard of a 'dark angel' messenger or otherwise and a search on the internet provides lots of links for a game called Warhammer... (Just Saying)
First: A benevolent entity would not cause the 'Fight or Flight' instinct to 'kick in' no matter how 'different' looking they appeared. Now I'm not saying this is an Evil Spirit / Entity... Far from it. You must ask yourself one thing... When you 'see' this thing what is your 'gut feeling' about it. I understand you 'don't know' what it is... But what is making you 'scared / defensive / concerned' about this 'visitor'?
Second: Take a moment... The appearance of this 'thing' is interesting... Ask yourself when and where have you seen something like this before and what did it make you feel like at that time? This visitor has taken on this image for a reason... It may have something to do with how you 'identify' with that particular 'costume'...for lack of a better word.
Third: Please try this as it may just help... If this 'visitor' is truly malevolent, then this 'ritual' may just do the trick... And please note it may be used with Prayers to Heavenly Father and His Son or any belief system of your choice... I use this myself on my Home and Family...
Recipe for a Home Cleansing/Shielding... (allow for two or 3 days to complete)
Day one: Open all curtains window and doors with screens installed, let fresh air and sunshine into the home. Have all closets, cabinets and other 'dark spaces' open so that as much natural light as possible can enter those spaces. After 2-3 hours take a broom and 'sweep' out each room (this is symbolic and you do not have to really sweep) focus your thoughts on sweeping (pushing) out all negative energies / entities /thoughts. Close home up after completing each room of your home... Please do not forget your garage if you have one. (Optional) Light incense (sandalwood or Dragons-blood works well for me) and let aroma fill the home, and/or play a tape that contains your favorite Church songs before you begin sweeping.
Day two (or three): Once again open all curtains, windows and doors. Take a White candle (Optional) to the center most point of the home, sit on the floor and place candle in front of you. Light the candle (visualize a white ball of light) and then focus on the flame... Visualize the flame (white light) filled with positive thoughts, energy. (Say a prayer at this time if you so desire... Ask for cleansing positive energy to fill the candles flame/white light). Hold this 'image' in your mind and then visualize the flame (light) slowly expanding outward, visualize it filling the room your in, every corner and 'dark space'. Continue to visualize it expanding...it's outer edges pushing away (burning away) any and all negative energies/entities out and away from each room in your home. Once you have visualized this flame (light) filling your entire home, picture it expanding to your property lines. Hold this image in your mind for a few moments then visualize 'anchoring' this flame (light) where you are sitting which is the center most point of your home. Once you have done this. Take a deep breath, relax a few moments and then blow out the candle. (If you didn't use a candle just let yourself relax a moment or two.) "
Now you can create a shield for yourself using the 'home shield' technique but instead of focusing on your home visualize the 'flame' simply surrounding you instead of your home... Best time to do this is after a nice shower using a rosemary scented soap (rosemary is good for purification and protection.)
Please feel free to ask any questions you may have I am here to help...
Respectfully,
Rook
I have gone back and re-read your original comment so that I could have that in mind as I read this a second and then a third time...
This 'visitor' of yours does seem like it may have some sort of message for you, but why it's not just delivering it and moving on is, 'odd' to say the least. I must say this now... DO NOT agree with Nidham_Morgue, as well spoken as they are I have never heard of a 'dark angel' messenger or otherwise and a search on the internet provides lots of links for a game called Warhammer... (Just Saying)
First: A benevolent entity would not cause the 'Fight or Flight' instinct to 'kick in' no matter how 'different' looking they appeared. Now I'm not saying this is an Evil Spirit / Entity... Far from it. You must ask yourself one thing... When you 'see' this thing what is your 'gut feeling' about it. I understand you 'don't know' what it is... But what is making you 'scared / defensive / concerned' about this 'visitor'?
Second: Take a moment... The appearance of this 'thing' is interesting... Ask yourself when and where have you seen something like this before and what did it make you feel like at that time? This visitor has taken on this image for a reason... It may have something to do with how you 'identify' with that particular 'costume'...for lack of a better word.
Third: Please try this as it may just help... If this 'visitor' is truly malevolent, then this 'ritual' may just do the trick... And please note it may be used with Prayers to Heavenly Father and His Son or any belief system of your choice... I use this myself on my Home and Family...
Recipe for a Home Cleansing/Shielding... (allow for two or 3 days to complete)
Day one: Open all curtains window and doors with screens installed, let fresh air and sunshine into the home. Have all closets, cabinets and other 'dark spaces' open so that as much natural light as possible can enter those spaces. After 2-3 hours take a broom and 'sweep' out each room (this is symbolic and you do not have to really sweep) focus your thoughts on sweeping (pushing) out all negative energies / entities /thoughts. Close home up after completing each room of your home... Please do not forget your garage if you have one. (Optional) Light incense (sandalwood or Dragons-blood works well for me) and let aroma fill the home, and/or play a tape that contains your favorite Church songs before you begin sweeping.
Day two (or three): Once again open all curtains, windows and doors. Take a White candle (Optional) to the center most point of the home, sit on the floor and place candle in front of you. Light the candle (visualize a white ball of light) and then focus on the flame... Visualize the flame (white light) filled with positive thoughts, energy. (Say a prayer at this time if you so desire... Ask for cleansing positive energy to fill the candles flame/white light). Hold this 'image' in your mind and then visualize the flame (light) slowly expanding outward, visualize it filling the room your in, every corner and 'dark space'. Continue to visualize it expanding...it's outer edges pushing away (burning away) any and all negative energies/entities out and away from each room in your home. Once you have visualized this flame (light) filling your entire home, picture it expanding to your property lines. Hold this image in your mind for a few moments then visualize 'anchoring' this flame (light) where you are sitting which is the center most point of your home. Once you have done this. Take a deep breath, relax a few moments and then blow out the candle. (If you didn't use a candle just let yourself relax a moment or two.) "
Now you can create a shield for yourself using the 'home shield' technique but instead of focusing on your home visualize the 'flame' simply surrounding you instead of your home... Best time to do this is after a nice shower using a rosemary scented soap (rosemary is good for purification and protection.)
Please feel free to ask any questions you may have I am here to help...
Respectfully,
Rook
Nidham_Morgue (guest)
-2
13 years ago (2011-08-15)
Indeed interesting. It does not sound like a demon, and certainly does not act like one. What it sounds like is in fact an angel. A dark angel. From what you say, it does not actually attack you. Rather, you react defensively (understandably so), by throwing pillows, recoiling from it, or even chasing after it. The scratches sound like an accident caused by your recoil rather than an intentional assault. Even the snakes, while still horrible, were notably non-poisonous. This was most likely to make sure you understood that this was real, and you aren't crazy, without the danger of doing permanent damage. It seems more like it may either be watching over you, possibly even protecting you.
I have had too much experience with both angels and demons. I've also had similar experiences regarding dark angels. One apparently had come to tell me that my fiancee had died, as well as to deliver her spirit (which harassed me for months afterward). Something to keep in mind is that while their methods can seem brutal, dark angels would never cause harm to you unless they had to, which typically would be to force you to leave before something truly vile such as a demon arrived with intention to do real harm. Perhaps something truly is hunting for you, in which case this thing may never leave you as long as you are in danger.
But if it does happen again, don't recoil and don't attack. Just acknowledge it with a nod or a "hello", or even a "thank you". I think you'll find it to be less intrusive and abusive afterwards, and it may help you to feel more comfortable when its around.
I have had too much experience with both angels and demons. I've also had similar experiences regarding dark angels. One apparently had come to tell me that my fiancee had died, as well as to deliver her spirit (which harassed me for months afterward). Something to keep in mind is that while their methods can seem brutal, dark angels would never cause harm to you unless they had to, which typically would be to force you to leave before something truly vile such as a demon arrived with intention to do real harm. Perhaps something truly is hunting for you, in which case this thing may never leave you as long as you are in danger.
But if it does happen again, don't recoil and don't attack. Just acknowledge it with a nod or a "hello", or even a "thank you". I think you'll find it to be less intrusive and abusive afterwards, and it may help you to feel more comfortable when its around.
JamesRobiscoe (419 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-08-14)
Brother Haunted 1 -
This is truly effin weird. Were you in 'Nam? Serve in Japan? See this woman's costume in a Mardi Gras parade? Maybe a ghost of a long-dead Klans (wo) man?
The initial encounter at Arlington might provide some clues as to its origin or why it keeps coming to you.
The scratches are to me a red flag. Did you photograph them? I'm sure your wife is more frightened than angry with you. While it's a fact that we can use our dream imaginations to embody a fear or anxiety, this one feels all too real. I've experienced shadow people watching me and nightmare enemies and know the difference. I've been known to jump out of bed and bash a wall, but a bed of snakes and a bite to prove it where no snake can be found or crawled to hide is another matter.
And not one but two voodoo practitioners to abruptly drop your reading tells you more about them than you and this phenomenon. Is it possible you torqued someone off and he/she put a hex on you?
Your poor son, what has he done to see you so terrified? Have you talked gently with him in general terms to learn if he's ever been frightened?
As Catholics, I would suggest you put a crucifix in your room and your son's room as well. The Church gives us a big arsenal of prayers (the one to St. Michael is particularly effective since he's the one to conquer evil spirits in God's name) but you can use your own spontaneous one-liners and short phrases. When your hackles go up again, start the prayers for all you're worth.
Some might suggest you cleanse your house (everywhere, in every corner) by burning sage, which is natural and not sacrilegious is any way (in case you have scruples) or drawing lines of salt around your bed and at the borders of your room (s). Keep a calendar or book and keep notes to keep your rationality working, and in case you want to get a ghost-hunting group in or a priest to come bless the house again.
I really hate what you're going through, and this wraith needs to be banished back to where it came. And don't you know it. Please keep us updated as time goes on, and meanwhile go with God.
~ James
This is truly effin weird. Were you in 'Nam? Serve in Japan? See this woman's costume in a Mardi Gras parade? Maybe a ghost of a long-dead Klans (wo) man?
The initial encounter at Arlington might provide some clues as to its origin or why it keeps coming to you.
The scratches are to me a red flag. Did you photograph them? I'm sure your wife is more frightened than angry with you. While it's a fact that we can use our dream imaginations to embody a fear or anxiety, this one feels all too real. I've experienced shadow people watching me and nightmare enemies and know the difference. I've been known to jump out of bed and bash a wall, but a bed of snakes and a bite to prove it where no snake can be found or crawled to hide is another matter.
And not one but two voodoo practitioners to abruptly drop your reading tells you more about them than you and this phenomenon. Is it possible you torqued someone off and he/she put a hex on you?
Your poor son, what has he done to see you so terrified? Have you talked gently with him in general terms to learn if he's ever been frightened?
As Catholics, I would suggest you put a crucifix in your room and your son's room as well. The Church gives us a big arsenal of prayers (the one to St. Michael is particularly effective since he's the one to conquer evil spirits in God's name) but you can use your own spontaneous one-liners and short phrases. When your hackles go up again, start the prayers for all you're worth.
Some might suggest you cleanse your house (everywhere, in every corner) by burning sage, which is natural and not sacrilegious is any way (in case you have scruples) or drawing lines of salt around your bed and at the borders of your room (s). Keep a calendar or book and keep notes to keep your rationality working, and in case you want to get a ghost-hunting group in or a priest to come bless the house again.
I really hate what you're going through, and this wraith needs to be banished back to where it came. And don't you know it. Please keep us updated as time goes on, and meanwhile go with God.
~ James
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