Comments for Navajo Rez: Skinwalker: Page 1

Skinwalkers: aren't they witches shape-shifters, Skinwalkers. They use the animal forms so they can assume to travel surreptitiously to deliver their messages in secret. Do correct me if I am wrong.

I never thought I would come across the word Navajo again. I was given a Navajo charm bracelet years ago.

Ah, but there truly IS no typical skin walker. And THAT is where the horror lies with them. You can not really just KNOW that someone IS a skin walker.
I found something really interesting about the instance with the football team that you shared with Celtcharm. You say that members of the team saw "...what looked like an older half-naked man dressed in fur or animal hides running along side the bus..." That is interesting TO ME, as a skin walker is nude, covered only in the skin of the animal it chooses to imitate.
In fact, the pelts of animals are usually a rarity (used to be that NO ONE would own one, or be in the possession of a pelt) among the People as for the connection WITH a skin walker USING a pelt to disguise itself.
So, now you have me thinking further. Aside from my first question "Can you recall whether or not your thought process was effected?" (besides obviously being scared. I would have been beyond that, I think), I must add another. Do YOU recall if the being chasing that truck was clothed?
So now you have a few possibilities. You COULD have encountered a TRAINEE (thus the "mistake" of clothing), or that of a Nature Spirit. THEY do wear clothing as they are NOT a dual being. They may be spliced with several different Nature visuals, but not outright souls (as opposed to energy. Nature Spirits use the natural energy of their mimic, and do not NEED the soul to carry out it's goals).
Nature Spirits are private. They tend to hide when in the presence of too many witnesses, and blend into their surroundings. A trainee would not want to be caught WHILE practicing, as that would "blow it's cover"...
You have got me thinking.
Thank you.

Thank you all very much for your comments. Whitebuffalo, thank you for your interpretation and information about the skinwalkers.

To be honest, I don't know too much about the subject other than my own experience, what I've heard from my grandmother and others that have had personal experiences. It's true that it may not have been a traditional skinwalker or "shape shifter". All I really know is that I was scared out of my mind. As far as this particular skinwalker being deterred from it's goal by the headlights, I wonder if it just stopped following us and decided to pursue the other vehicle. Maybe it didn't like my barking dog, maybe the other vehicle was slower and therefore an easier target. I'll never know.

Celtcharm, I've also heard that only natives usually have skinwalker experiences, I'm wondering if that's just due to the fact that there aren't many non-natives living on the reservation where most of these events occur. Or maybe there are no personal reasons for these witches to use these powers against non-natives. I say this because when I was in high school, our football team had an experience of their own. I wasn't on the football team but many of my close friends, and the coach himself, said that they all witnessed something crazy while they were coming home from a game while traveling through the Navajo rez at night. Seven of my friends said that while they were driving, somebody looked out the window and saw what looked like an older half-naked man dressed in fur or animal hides running along side the bus about 15 feet out. Also keep in mind that the bus was traveling at least 60 mph! They said that it was dark out and some of these guys weren't in a good position to see it too clearly, but they ALL believed that they saw the same thing and that there was definitely something running along side them for about 25-30 seconds.

I also have a non-native (white) uncle that also had a run in with what he and his friend believed to be a skinwalker. So I don't know. I really doubt that there are any set rules for these skinwalkers. Either way, I believe that they are real and that their power does not come from a good source even though at one time they might have used it for good. Whitebuffalo, thank you again for your insight and info.
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Excuse me, please Tracker, for the interruption to your page.

You are welcome, celtcharm. I honestly sat on that comment since about six this morning as I was not sure how it would be received. I did not mean for it to take up such space, but the similarities as well as the differences needed to be pointed out as it would appear many people had the questions.
Skin walkers are one of the unspoken issues of the Native American race. It is a blemish on our past that should NOT have been implemented. It was initiated as a HELP, and got turned into something completely the opposite. That is much debated as they were used in BATTLE (how could THAT be good?) but, as was pointed out, MANY Natives will not speak of them.
Now a Shape shifter? Oh yea, many a campfire has had the privilege of hearing daring tales of flight over the oceans, or running with a herd of wild horses. Tales of saving family members a days travel away, and reuniting with a lost love are the "typical" plots in this atypical experience.
Have I left you with any questions? I would be more than happy to try to rectify the situation.
Thank you.

And thank YOU, Tracker.

Whitebuffalo, thanks for shareing all that info with us. I'm interested in learning about this subject.
Peace, Celtcharm

To be honest, I am wondering if you encountered a Nature Spirit instead of a skin walker, and I really...
Well. The easiest way to explain why is to note the differences between a Shape shifter and a Skin walker as they are SO similar that they are easily interchanged when spoken about by those who have never been blessed with either experience. I use the word blessed (forgive me if I am oversimplifying all of this. I have been told in the past that I make things too difficult to understand when it comes to The Way, and I am trying to make this easy) as it is pretty rare to encounter either of these beings outright.
Suspected Shape shifters and Skin walkers, yes. THEY abound. But an ACTUAL walker or shifter are rather few and far between.
A Shape shifter does just that. The person involved (or the animal involved. It depends on which soul the shifter was born into) simply changes into a different form. Transformation, transmogrification, whatever you want to call it, it starts out as an innocent exploration of ones world.
There are three forms of Shape shifters. One is involuntary and COULD be painful. The body, or features, bend, shift or stretch to MAKE the other body desired (thus the assumption that some shape shifters are little more than were-men). Another is associated with a "fold over". The outer shell of the being it is changing INTO simply comes out and folds OVER the actual skin of the being. The third form is the easiest. The being actually has TWO forms. The animal side, and the human side that it can change into at will. Kind of like changing your clothes.
I note an important fact here before I go on. Shape shifters are "in innocence". There is no concrete proof, but it IS thought that a person CAN be born with this ability.
Now a Skin walker is something rather similar, but NOT in intent. Hundreds of years ago when the Natives were forced to rethink their combat missions (as many of us were thinning out, and were outnumbered in battle), many Medicine Men got together and formed a plan to give the warrior EXTENDED powers.
The main objective was stealth. IF the enemy did not see you coming, you were the safest. And what better form to be in (as the animal kingdom hides during war), but that of the enemy to get across their line?
Through the years, a few unscrupulous people got greedy, and power hungry. They modified the REASONING behind BEING skin walkers and made it the black art that it is today.
In SOME tribes (mainly the Navajo nation) the skin walker is thought to be an evil witch who can take on the body of that which he would like to be, for whatever purpose he deems necessary (generally, witches are predominantly male, and only childless women are thought to be able to be witches) It is said that they can take on ANY form they desire to.
Those that wish to be a skin walker train hard and intensively for years just to gain the right, or permission, to be trained to BECOME one. Depending on which tribe the trainee is from, ONE of the acts that must be performed is the murder of either a sibling or other close relative.
AS a skin walker, the use of mind control is imperative. One must learn how to control one's OWN mind, as well as others without difficulties.
Whichever form a skin walker chooses to adorn, he takes on the characteristics just about perfectly. The way to tell if your best friend is actually a skin walker is to take in his appearance. MANY/MOST encounters are described as mutated versions of the host. Blurry lines, faded colors, eyes that glow in the human form, but NOT in the animal form, unclear distinct differences (for instance, elongated ears on a leopard). One is NOT born with this ability. One needs to train, and practice it well to obtain the desired results. In their animal forms, skin walkers are very fast, and impossible to catch.

You very well may have encountered a skin walker, but what I am pondering is why the car lights would deter it from it's goal? Please do not get me wrong, I am overjoyed that it was frightened away as I can not even imagine what was in the mind of a skin walker as it approached it's prey, but with the sheer POWER of such a being...
Now a Nature Spirit takes on many forms too. They do not always look like Mother Willow, or a creepy demonized troll. SOME of them take on the appearance of beings as a Yeti.
Can you recall whether or not your thought process was effected?
Thank you.

i think I would be terrified if I seen one of these!
I did see something about them on animal planet before but thanks for sharing:)

Skin Walkers is an example of many things that people never heard of. If you can find them on the internet, your lucky, most you have to witness yourself.

Demonologists Ed and Lorraine Warren and Ralphie Sarchie both relate stories of being involved in the exorcism of two different people who were possessed by a werewolf demon, for lack of a better word.

If I have learned anything it is that almost anything can happen. I also trust the wisdom and insights of Native Americans. They are closer to the land and nature than most of us. Your feeling of dread just before the skinwalker appeared may indicate that you are gifted with some sensitivities to certain spirits.

Wow it was really scary! Never heard of skinwalkers before... But they seem scary! Thanks for sharing your experience😊

that was a good story tracker. I always been intrigued with the skin walker stories. My dad he used to live over there for quiet a while, and yep you bet he had a physical run in with a skin walker. Maybe some time I can tell you. He was trying to offer my dad a gift, but my dad refused. And etc... But like I said I would love to share this story with you sometime, it was very very scary. I would have totally freaked if that was me. I have had experiences all my life, I think it just runs in the family.

That is wicked, I never thought that there's something like that there in the U.S. And it's really scary. It was like a movie. 😨

Skinwalkers are real enough for you & your grandma, why wouldn't they be real enough for the rest of us? As a non-native, I don't know if I would have experienced all that you did. Never-the-less, I truly believe what you say happened.

Hi Tracker337, I live in Oklahoma. A Native American friend of mine told me you have to be A Native American to have a skinwalker experience. What is your opinion on that? I really enjoyed reading your experience. I read so many stories I don't get scared to easy but your's scared me! Thanks, Peace, Celtcharm

this skin walker thing sounds interesting never heard of it but I will try to do some research. Thanks for this interesting story though

Awesome story. Deliciously scary, but I'm glad you went through it and not I because I would have surely wrecked the truck! Thanks for sharing!

some people say yes and others say no. Truthfully, not all skin walkers are.

man that does sound pretty scary.

I've read up on these skin walkers before
Aren't they also supposed to be shape shifters?