Sexual Ghost

Hoochler,
Yeah... DUH! (lol)
Come on man, give me a break, not a lecture. I was showing enthusiasm! You get me any more fired up I won't be held responsible for my actions.
Okay, blah, blah, blah, yackitty smackitty...

I was having some fun with you Hooch! Do you really think you need to give me 'the talk' about evidence and such? Think real hard before you reply. At least give me some time to come up with some better jokes, or a song, or something. I can become quite wicked you know. 😆 😆

Jav ❤

Hello Jav,

Get the project in gear... What exactly is the project? Proving spirits are real? Mathematically proving that certain types of spirits are evil?

These questions are part of the mystery of life and can only be answered with 100% certainty for anyone by God showing them.

I don't think it is possible for a person to scientifically utterly prove (or disprove) either of those things here on the Earth for the benefit of others, and I believe that is by design. We mostly have access to the same evidence, information and scriptures so what I have been trying to do is guide people on how to best collect and make use of the evidence and information already available to them to come up with their own conclusions that best match the truth as closely as possible.

My last post on this thread was just to urge others to quit asking the demon people for information because they will not be a reliable source and why I think that.

Besides, even if CNN were streaming utterly irrefutable live video coverage from hell 24/7 that showed Satan personally issuing orders to his demons and conducting his affairs in real time, there would still be MANY people out there who would not accept this because it is not what they wanted to think was how things really are. There are many who do not wish to believe that hell is real and they make up their own belief systems based around what they would like rather than looking for what truly is.

I believe that the only "project" any of us can hope to complete in our lives involves seeking our own individual answers for life's big questions, and many of those answers are within reach if they are diligently sought.

Hoochler,
I can see no flaws in your logic. And I agree with all that you've said here. The only thing left to say is... Let's get this project in gear, okay? I'm tired of spinning my wheels!
As usual, you have the right idea. I'm just glad you've stuck around as long as you have Hooch, you have been at this much longer than the rest of us, save for Rook, so any ideas you have are definitely a breath of fresh air here.
Fire away!

Jav 😁

Actually, if the responses of the "pro demon" people on this forum are considered data points and then put into the working theory explained earlier in this thread, their lack of cooperation (and sidetracking dangerous lines of conversation with disruptions) is actually predicted and fits nicely into the overall picture. We should expect such people to be disruptive to any public, organized effort to truly understand these things.

Think about it, demons NEED to shroud their true goals and nature in secrecy, without secrecy and deception their whole agenda (pulling people away from God's plan for their life) falls apart. These people are in willing, ongoing relationships with demons. Anyone dealing with demons over time becomes tainted by them and their constant lies, that is the nature of demons. Someone does not have to believe in the existence of Satan or his demons to be influenced and manipulated by them.

It is logical to predict that any person who is tainted by demons will endeavor to be of little to no use to outsiders in trying to understand demons because the demons pulling their strings (through influence, not outright possession) need the secrets of their true nature to remain wrapped in obfuscation in order for them to continue their "work". It is not a big leap of logic to then also predict that such demons would try to motivate the people under their sway to at best not help others to find answers, at worst to disrupt ongoing efforts (especially public efforts) to find answers by whatever viable means presented itself. I dare say that this is what we have seen play out here on YGS.

Once there is no expectation that these tainted people will be of any deliberate help in finding true answers about sex spirits (demons) and instead we mine whatever posts they may offer here or there for whatever useful data they may contain, the sooner a useful picture on sex spirits (demons) will emerge.

It should also be considered that people under demonic influence are being chronically lied to themselves and possess at best lies based upon occasional kernels of truth about the nature of demons to fashion their own flawed understanding about the nature of these beings. Someone cannot share a spiritual truth that that they themselves do not already possess, this is yet another reason why we should stop looking directly to these tainted people for any useful knowledge about sex demons.

Although their experiences are more limited, humans who do not desire the contact from these things seem to be a more reliable source of anecdotal information about these beings because these people are not embracing the demonic lies that go hand in hand with the demonic fun. Also, I suggest daily prayer asking for wisdom from God to provide further insight into any spiritual matter where more understanding is desired.

I am not trying to sound like I have all the answers, because no one alive does. If there is a flaw in my logic, feel free to point it out.

[at] Hoochler,
know I'm going to sound like a broken record here so let me start off by saying that I do agree we should, in your words, "Argue the merits of discussion points, not personalities."
This was what we were attempting to to do from the beginning. Leaving aside our personal feelings on the nature of these entities, and delving into the possibility of gathering evidence to help further the science of the paranormal. Attempting to bring the community that is more familiar with the phenomenon into the discussion has failed miserably. And the idea that we might get some sort of assistance in the gathering of evidence has as well. There are folks on both sides of this debate that have very strong feelings about the nature of these entities, and for our part, I was proud to see those feelings were laid aside in order to further the effort. But sadly, it seems this is a one sided endeavor. And though I can see what you are getting at, it is becoming more and more difficult to keep expecting one side to do all the giving and nothing to show from it but a kick in the teeth. I am afraid we may be running low on 'care', at least for the time being anyway.

Jav

This is not addressed to anyone in particular.

Don't confuse the lie with the liar. I personally do not think Scbsd is the source of (much) untruth, rather he is a conduit for it. He is repeating what he has been told by a DEMON. Demons lie, that is their deal. I think this is a case of the demon thinking something like this "<insert lie here> so the human quits asking about demons and we can proceed with doing what I want".

I think Scbsd is holding back from the total body of knowledge he knows, but I truly believe that he believes the lie that demons will be harmed if humans learned much about them.

I am still scratching my head over all the YGS IDs he has made and what role duplicity may (or may not) play in their creation and ongoing use, but as a vocal critic of Scbsd's arguments over time I find myself in the odd situation of saying that on the point of divulging information about his demon lover he himself is a victim of lies and should be pitied (and prayed for), not roasted and condemned.

I suggest we argue the merits of discussion points, not personalities.

It's taken me about 3 weeks to get through the pages of this thread... But I have to say,
The idea that any and all evidence towards validating the existance of these beings should be concealed for their protection from humans, is rediculous. Other than forcing an entity from a location- energy in any form cannot be destroyed (as Rookdygin pointed out) That any person might hold the knowledge to do so is the stuff of hollywood fiction... This is obviously an excuse for the absence of such evidence.
To those who consider this thread "fighting" and or "negative" It is called debating. While I may not agree with namecalling, that often comes with debate. Perhaps this is not for those so easily offended?

Amit,
He tried that last time. It didn't get him very far, did it?

Jav

Never mind Lou. He is only going to wait until all of us are away to use his guerrilla tactics.

Rookdygin,
I'm blown away after reading the tragic, final words your friend left behind. Hearing that, does a lot to validate the "reality" of these beings for me- as you have always been a "straight up" fellow here, not one to fabricate... I do agree- the lack of "evidence" on this site (or any similiar site) by those who claim to share residence with one of these beings is rather suspect. I'm not including those who think they may be experiencing like activity- only those who are sure of it, going so far as to quote conversations, as well as name them.

Matthew, Matthew, Matthew.

You never fail to disappoint. By your own admission, you are everything we pegged you as so many months (years?) ago, and so much less.

Your inquiry to MizMiMi, granny?, about whether they felt better now that they have gotten their contempt for your actions off their chest, is a perfect question for yourself. Doesn't it feel better now that you have admitted you are here for no one else but yourself? Don't you feel better now that those annoying victims of sexual entities won't be bothering you and your "circle" with their pathetic stories of fear and desperation? Don't you feel better now that you have alienated and dislodged even the most sturdy fence sitters so that you can truly play your perpetual role of the victim?

Live and relish in your accomplishments Matt. Because even at your level of lifeform, you have achieved the highest level... If I could just remember not to wear these shoes, I would have an easier time scraping you off every time you decide to stink up this place.

Now run along and play. There's another hairy knuckled poster waiting to share with you just the way you like it... I guess you guys are just racing to see who will go blind first.

Lou

Rook,
I wouldn't bother giving him any more information, it doesn't matter how we give, he never reciprocates. He is all about taking, never giving. The selfishness of him and his little crew is boundless.

Jav

Scbsd,

The question from you, to me, is now this...

"Rook, I do have a question for you. You mention three friends that were engaged in a relationship with a Sex Being, and then you imply that they were able to disconnect. How did they break the connection?"

First I have IMPLIED Nothing. I stated facts. I have know 3 individuals that were involved with these types of 'Entities'. Two of them still have lingering issues from their relationships... The other no longer has the cares of the living.

One decided that they now longer desired the contact... She woke up and realized that this 'being' had isolated her, lead her away from Family and Friends and 'lorded' over her life demanding all of her attention. So her 'dismissal' began with Saying No and ignoring it, which only seemed to anger it. She then turned to her mothers Church and a Minister helped to completely break the ties she had to this entity.

Another came to the same realization... And actually came to me for help. We began with her using an early version of my Cleansing and Shielding 'Recipe' but the entity resisted and a Full Banishment was eventually preformed.

The third, he didn't fair so well. He enjoyed the 'contact' despite being more and more isolated. The entity convinced him that 'their' contact was all he needed. He lost his job, friends and completely alienated his Family. Then his 'loving, caring...I'll do anything, be anything for you 'partner' became dissatisfied with the energy they were getting from him and it left him...cold...He never recovered...'Human interaction' was 'not enough' for him... He tried the Church... He tried seeing a Psychiatrist... Even group therapy but 9 months after contact had been broken he killed himself. Part of his final note read...

"I feel nothing anymore. I have nothing left to give, I gave it all to XXXXXX. XXXXXX took it all. When what I could give was no longer enough She left me. I'm an empty shell that cannot be filled. I cannot endure this emptiness. You were right my Friend, I should have listened. I'm Sorry."

(Yes I still have the letter. Yes it was addressed to me. No I will not Publish the whole thing, nor will I reveal any names.)

So, I freely admit they exist, I BOLDLY STATE that they are EVIL and yet... In the interest of proving the Spirit World exists I'm willing to lay aside those feelings and ask those of you who feel you are involved in 'Healthy Relationships' with one of these entities to help provide proof... This isn't a subtle change in my attitude. This is about choosing to do something for the Greater Good... If we can prove there is a Spirit World with cooperation from your 'special friends', solid repeatable scientific proof. Then I am willing to set aside my prejudices so that this proof can be collected and offered. Their True NATURE will be reveled over time because they can not help but be 'what they' are.

Respectfully,

Rook

Perhaps it was the 'tone' that my head changed it to, I suppose. A major problem when it comes to text-based communication, as there's no expressions or cues to go off of. I didn't delve too deeply into the later comments because it looked like the conversation was continued.

As chaotic as my last few days have been going of late, I am just going to bow out of this conversation because I do not have the time nor patience to figure this out. My apologies for any misunderstandings, and good day.

[at] js,
Thank you for that. And the thing about trolls? Sometimes they are regular members looking to start trouble. Which explains Wiz. This is a regular member that also has the power to have certain posts deleted at will. Chew on that one for a while.
Interesting how that works, isn't it?

Jav

Kryodrache: I don't believe that Jav was being rude to you. I re-read her comment 5 times and I think the complete opposite of your point of view. She even apologized for her actions on the discussions with Scbsd. Jav gave you a lot of details in the comment, so you might understand where she is coming from. That's what I got from the message...

Wiz: This is nothing new under the sun. This is the reality of life. Most people want 100% peace and love, but this isn't heaven, and sometimes trolls like to stir that 'peace and love' into, what you see here. Don't worry though, there will be a time of 100% peace and love in the future.

JS aka Brandon

lol more negativity on this site! What's happening on here lately? As for the story I'm not one to judge so good luck in whatever you decide to do about your 'problem' x peace and love x wiz

[at] Kryodrache,
Perhaps if you read my post again you'll see where this new misunderstanding has come from as well. I didn't say for you to look for what the author chose, I pointed out that we had covered it in our previous comments, that you would have known if you had read them (the comments) before assuming the worst. That's all. And yes, I always thought we were good too. That was why your comment surprised me. I didn't think you would judge Rook or myself so harshly, but that's exactly what I felt when I read your comment. Understand, when there are disputes like this going on, anyone who chooses to comment on them, and not the story, has left themselves open for the sort of response you got from me. Feelings are already raw by the time others feel they need to step in and mediate. That mediation is always treated harshly simply because it comes from someone outside of the argument. Whether you did so or not, it came off as you putting us down at the moment it was given. I'm sorry if you are hurt, but I won't take back what I said. The original message I was relaying to you was to read the comments before posting one yourself. Especially one that could be misconstrued as being an insult to those involved in this debate.

Jav

[at] Javelina

There is no reason to be rude. I was not attempting to be rude, nor did I ask to be snapped at.

No, I did not look to see whether the author looked for the comments or not. I admit I skim over that a lot because it doesn't occur to me to look. I naturally assume people like to see what's being commented on their story. As it is, I'm more interested in the story and the comments than the easily missed details crammed beneath said story.

I always figured we were on good terms, and I hope it will stay that way. In which regards, in the context you've given me, I can fully understand why the conversation has gone as it has thus far.

In the future, please be gentle. I'm not here to make a jerk of myself, and I could easily have done with a "This person chose not to comment, so we take certain liberties!" That would have explained it just as well ^^ Thank you.

Hi D!

I saw that comment. Like I said in my earlier comment - opinion based theories in response to logical questions - DUH!

And yes, its always good to be back here sister! I am just struggling with my time management skills for now, so I am irregular to comment... But I do read all the comments.

Amit! You're back!
That proves to me that my Batman Signal works! YAY!
Did you catch his comment to Rook? The one where he tells him to "Calm down"? Now that's egomania!

Jav

Welcome back brother! 😁

Yawn yawn!
I am still waiting to see a factual response with data from Scbsd. All I get is opinion based theory from " (Wannabe) Mod Almighty" in response to the logical questions from MOST of the other posters. Of course, we all have our bad days, and all of us have pulled the trigger too soon a few times.

But grow up Scbsd! Take whatever advice you can decipher from what's been posted here and seriously, get out into the sunshine. I know the sunlight kills bacteria... So you never know

😆 😆

Jav- I bet not. Unfortunately that happens when you get called out, and your bs gets exposed like Janet Jackson at the SuperBowl.

Jav: 'Jerky Boys', 😆

That's another thing, you would think the graphic details said on YGS would be enough, because i've read a lot of stories here and thought, "This could be in Playboy". I can only imagine the graphic details on that site.

JS aka Brandon

I'm with you MizMiMi. I feel better too. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that the only one not feeling better is Scbsd.

Jav

Scbsd: Well, then I guess we'll never know for certain since those comments have been sent to the void... How convenient...

As far as your membership here goes, I will reiterate: Why push it?...You have to know that the mere sight of your screen name on the board draws a crowd... Bet that makes you feel really important, doesn't it?...But inevitably, the thread turns into a flame war and Martin is contacted by one or more members or Mods; the thread ends up a complete mess of missing comments and posts to non-existant questions until at last the whole thing is shut down and the vows of ignoring further posts from those involved are spoken only to be broken the next time one of these stories is published...

You bring nothing but chaos to this site, and then bi*ch about how negative it's become... If you want to continue your membership I ask that you keep your negative attitude on your own site and out of this one... You may be Mod Almighty there, but here, you're a mere mortal and as such, expendable...

Actually, I do feel better. And to think I actually thought you would have an I intelligent rebuttal. Fact is, you're full of it, and you know it.

[at] JS,
I know! I know! When I read "Mod Almighty" I nearly chocked from laughter!

[at] Scbsd,
Pathetic? Is that all you've got? Can't answer those questions I posed, can you? You see, we have become immune to your asking other questions in order to turn the conversation in your favor, instead of answering the question itself. We actually watch and wait for you to do that now. It cracks me up that you pretend not to see the questions or the fact that your arguments are no longer taken seriously here. Yet here you are, hanging on by the skin of your teeth. And why? Well, that answer is quite simple for us, but I'll give it to you anyway, seeing as you have such a problem digesting it yourself.
Quite simply, it is because you CAN'T leave, can you? No. Because then you would lose your most favored source for new membership into the 'Jerky Boys' club along with all the new graphic detail in the new stories they bring you.
Now who's pathetic?

Jav

Joke of the day: "Mod Almighty"

I'm just going to keep shaking my head at you Scbsd..., because you just had to say:

"There seems to be a gradual shift among the frequent posters here on YGS, from openly denouncing these Beings as evil to at least pretending to be engaged in an objective search as to whether they even exist or not.

These frequent posters are now asking for us who are engaged in a relationship with one of these Sex Spirits to come forth with the sort of information that we may have about them, in order to help the Paranormal Community decide empirically, in a scientific manner, whether or not these Beings even exist, much the same way that other paranormal phenomenon is "researched" here on YGS.

I have one question for you who seek this information, and it is this...

If you were given information that would or even *might* serve to destroy every Succubi and/or Incubi forever, what would you do with it?"

I can't stand when a person answers a question with a question... And even if we gave the answer you wanted, you still wouldn't have shared your info, so stop trolling.

Oh, and i'm sure it's people saying, "Man, their ganging up on the poor guy", but it seems like we have to, to get it through your thick skull.

JS aka Brandon

P.S. - I hate bandwagon's by the way.

MizMimi, good for you. I bet you feel a lot better now.

Zzsgranny, you are still incorrect. It was four comments.

Javelina, pathetic.

Rook--"Now I want to ask you this... Your opinion is based on personal experience and conversations with 'Pure', is that correct?

So people should listen to your advice, advice based on your experience from an imaginary entity, because no proof has been offered of their existence."

I do think that people should listen to my advice as regards getting rid of one of these Beings if they don't want the contact, but it's not because anything that Pure has told me (and yes her kind does exist, else your anecdote of three friends becomes moot). Pure does not give me advice about how a Human can get rid of one of her kind.

I get that information from the people I have helped get rid of a Sex Being. I base my advice on the experience of others with whom I have had direct, one on one contact. So far I have had success in four separate cases (3 females and one male), and in each case it has been by the Human diligently ignoring the Sex Being.

I am not promoting it as the only technique that works, but I am and will continue to promote it as the only means that I know of that has ever worked for anyone. I would love to have some other technique that has been proven effective so that I could tell the people who don't like the contact yet another way to get it to stop, but I have yet to run into any technique that has ever worked even once.

Unfortunately (and I really had hoped that Hoochler would have had a means of doing this) as "defeatist" as it may sound to some of the regular posters here, ignoring the very existence of the Being (denying it so to speak) seems to be the only way that I have ever heard of that works.

So yeah, when a desperate soul comes here looking for help, I will still try to help them get rid of it (and it will be done HERE, because I don't want this sort of person to be on the forum), even thought the howl of the mob will all but bury my response under a wave of flame and hostility.

And if someone comes here that likes the contact, then yes, they will be "whisked away" (Javelina's words) to the forum where they can talk among kindred souls without worrying about being judged or spat upon as they would if they continued to talk about their feelings here.

And Granny? Despite your invite to leave, I am going to be here as long as I am allowed.

Rook, I do have a question for you. You mention three friends that were engaged in a relationship with a Sex Being, and then you imply that they were able to disconnect. How did they break the connection? My motives for asking this are explained above.