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jadenba (4 posts)
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14 years ago (2011-02-02)
i had something happen to me like that it was a pretty f#$kin scary dream and when I woke up there were 3 long cuts down my back don't piss off ghost/demons or anything else
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The-Red-Daisy (guest)
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14 years ago (2010-12-23)
It sounds to me like the bad entity might've known you in a past life. That's the only plausible explanation I can think of. Most spirits, be them good or bad, don't usually appear in someone's life unless you have some sort of ability or they knew you from somewhere else. Usually it's only poltergeists that spontaneously appear, but they are incapable of doing the things you have described.
The psychic "turning point" in most people's life is around 12 or 13 years old. That is when abilities peak. At that age, you're more receptive to paranormal phenomena, which is probably why the bad entity came to you. The good entity could be your spirit guide that is trying to ward off the bad entity.
I'm afraid that's all I have to offer you at the moment. Best of luck.
The psychic "turning point" in most people's life is around 12 or 13 years old. That is when abilities peak. At that age, you're more receptive to paranormal phenomena, which is probably why the bad entity came to you. The good entity could be your spirit guide that is trying to ward off the bad entity.
I'm afraid that's all I have to offer you at the moment. Best of luck.
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Ssia (2 posts)
+2
14 years ago (2010-11-15)
I'm guessing the main reason that the entity remains, is quite simple: it gets something from you that it wants and enjoys. Maybe it truly enjoys your company, and is fascinated by you. Perhaps humans are strange but intriguing creatures to them.
What are they? I really don't think anyone truly knows. But I don't think you can lump them all into any of the demonic or angelic stereotypes. They seem to have distinct personalities, and in my interactions with them, they claim NO denomination.
What should you do? Only you can figure that out. But you may want to consider this simple concept. If you're involved with someone in any type of relationship, you continue as long as it works for you. While not all relationships are perfect, a certain amount of balance and give/ take is needed to keep it going. If the relationship is not giving you what you want, perhaps you should let it go. Communication seems very important to you, and the entity seems to not be inclined that way. Maybe your communication is gibberish to it, and so it responds with gibberish. Maybe it thinks THIS IS communication.
In my interactions with entities, I have found that the simple approach seems to yield the best results. I think that your ignoring it when you wished it to go away, is a good example. But, if you would really wish it gone, you may have to disassociate yourself from thinking about it at all, and any interaction/ involvement with what is considered paranormal. I have found breaking this sort of psychic connection helpful in getting them to move on. But it takes real discipline, and you must not waver in your decision to have them leave you.
Good Luck, and don't guilt yourself about it. I think many people have similar experiences, but just don't know how to talk about it.
What are they? I really don't think anyone truly knows. But I don't think you can lump them all into any of the demonic or angelic stereotypes. They seem to have distinct personalities, and in my interactions with them, they claim NO denomination.
What should you do? Only you can figure that out. But you may want to consider this simple concept. If you're involved with someone in any type of relationship, you continue as long as it works for you. While not all relationships are perfect, a certain amount of balance and give/ take is needed to keep it going. If the relationship is not giving you what you want, perhaps you should let it go. Communication seems very important to you, and the entity seems to not be inclined that way. Maybe your communication is gibberish to it, and so it responds with gibberish. Maybe it thinks THIS IS communication.
In my interactions with entities, I have found that the simple approach seems to yield the best results. I think that your ignoring it when you wished it to go away, is a good example. But, if you would really wish it gone, you may have to disassociate yourself from thinking about it at all, and any interaction/ involvement with what is considered paranormal. I have found breaking this sort of psychic connection helpful in getting them to move on. But it takes real discipline, and you must not waver in your decision to have them leave you.
Good Luck, and don't guilt yourself about it. I think many people have similar experiences, but just don't know how to talk about it.
IncubusChild (5 posts)
14 years ago (2010-10-14)
your dreams seem to be sometimes very erotic and sometimes very violent, well my dreams a like "Hell". It is like I can't move anymore and I feel this hard pressure on my body and first I see two hands, then the body and then the face, I don't know if I'm sleeping or not but it feels like its real and it all looks like its real. The woman in my dreams has long black hair and her eyes are completly black and all I see when I look inside her eyes is this pitch black darkness. She starts to growl and starts choking me and I fell her hands right on my throat and I can bearly breath. When I wake um its like my throat and some parts of my body ar burning, like they were on fire. Then I look at the parts of my body and my throat and there are three clawmarks... That gave me the goosebumbs...
Sometimes when I just lie in my bed I hear voices calling my name and I shuffling in my room. And I have in my hallway I have a big mirror that I have to pass when I need to go to the bathroom and it happened a few times and I sh*t you not as I was passing the mirror and looked in it, I saw instead of my head a (what I would call it) demon head. I know this sounds messed up and unreal... But it is.
I hope there are people out there that maybe experienced same things.
God bless you all and take care ❤
IncubusChild
Sometimes when I just lie in my bed I hear voices calling my name and I shuffling in my room. And I have in my hallway I have a big mirror that I have to pass when I need to go to the bathroom and it happened a few times and I sh*t you not as I was passing the mirror and looked in it, I saw instead of my head a (what I would call it) demon head. I know this sounds messed up and unreal... But it is.
I hope there are people out there that maybe experienced same things.
God bless you all and take care ❤
IncubusChild
Antoinette (guest)
+1
14 years ago (2010-09-27)
Hmmm,., it all started out when you used that spell huh? Oh well... You have to know. Believe it or not, every words that you say have it's own energy... For example, if you say "angels" what would you feel? Piece right? But what about by saying "demon"? You would feel scare. That include on everything you done too. Everything that you say or do, has it's own energy... Means, attracts it. So... When you did the spell, maybe that spell is not positive enough! Mean... Negative energy! So you attracted this entity with the same vibration, and yes that us love (sex).
By the way, I have a similar problem too, if anyone want to help me please! Email me... Victorian_frozenmaiden [at] yahoo.com
I have msn and yahoo msn with the same email
Thanks...:)
By the way, I have a similar problem too, if anyone want to help me please! Email me... Victorian_frozenmaiden [at] yahoo.com
I have msn and yahoo msn with the same email
Thanks...:)
Light76 (2 posts)
-1
14 years ago (2010-09-25)
Hi Zuora, Also Hi nonameplease,
Message me or contact me and we can talk about your experiences ok.
Thanks God bless you and take care
Message me or contact me and we can talk about your experiences ok.
Thanks God bless you and take care
nonameplease (2 posts)
+2
14 years ago (2010-09-05)
Everything that you have said sounds EXACTLY like what has happened to me (right down to the the virginity; I'm a virgin, too). Is all of this a virgin's wishful thinking? Are we crazy? Are we lacking love in our lives? I've been sick through out my entire life & I've taken a lot of medicine. Is that a part of it? I'm so scared of this & I don't know who to talk to about it. The only thing that is different with my story is that mine accompanies loss. I lost two young men that I really loved... One of them, I wanted to wanted to marry. Is this "person" my lost loves or is it something else. I love them both so much but it can't be them. Can it? I don't want to go to hell for something I can't control. Can someone PLEASE help me? I'm so ashamed & scared. & I don't know what to do.
Shadowsofthepast (1 stories) (10 posts)
-4
14 years ago (2010-06-13)
Ella I won't talk openly on this site but contact me and we will talk
hales3 (3 stories) (16 posts)
+1
15 years ago (2010-04-13)
So wait, you were 12 when this all started?! My god that is so young for sexual things to start happening!
This spirit, the "good" one, this is the humanoid form? To me it seems you got what you want, a soul mate, who protects you and stands by you, which sounds absolutely amazing! But by doing the spell so many times I think it came with extra, the bad spirit.
You say it's still with you today? Why ignore it? If it is good to you and helps you when in need, don't ignore it!
I wish I knew how to whip up a magic spell to send my soul mate my way!
I have a lot of other questions, if I could email you or vice versa
Saidthemoon [at] yahoo.com
This spirit, the "good" one, this is the humanoid form? To me it seems you got what you want, a soul mate, who protects you and stands by you, which sounds absolutely amazing! But by doing the spell so many times I think it came with extra, the bad spirit.
You say it's still with you today? Why ignore it? If it is good to you and helps you when in need, don't ignore it!
I wish I knew how to whip up a magic spell to send my soul mate my way!
I have a lot of other questions, if I could email you or vice versa
Saidthemoon [at] yahoo.com
ScaredToDeath0 (9 posts)
15 years ago (2010-04-03)
well your dreams could be things that have happened in your past life (supposedly everyone has one). It is said that dreams are portals and maybe even untouched memories of your past life or possibly the past life of that good entity.
Toclosetorun (1 posts)
+1
15 years ago (2010-02-26)
I have felt almost the exact same thong minus the negotive feeling but like the weight on my body and I could feel like a cool sensation that felt like it was just going over my body. I'm not sure what this was or if it was real because smoked not too long before but I have never felt anything like this, the first time it happened I could feel multiple entities caressing me then after time only one remained but could feel it kind of making out with me it must sound mad but my tongue was moveing. I was going to pose but it wouldn't let me. Please tell me what you think guys? This was a good expierience most definataly mind at all.
WandersintheDark (10 posts)
15 years ago (2010-02-09)
Barring the fact the author hasn't posted back in a while, I would suggest she is dealing with the issue in her own way.
[at] ghostaric I doubt that it would be janus. She already knows what she has.
[at] luckysmc not everyone Can channel a spirit easily, and that might not be a door she wants to open. That path should be cautiously advised, due to the probability of things going wrong during or after.
To the author, Zuora, I hope everything has worked out for you positivly. Even if you don't return to read this.
[at] ghostaric I doubt that it would be janus. She already knows what she has.
[at] luckysmc not everyone Can channel a spirit easily, and that might not be a door she wants to open. That path should be cautiously advised, due to the probability of things going wrong during or after.
To the author, Zuora, I hope everything has worked out for you positivly. Even if you don't return to read this.
ghostaric (9 posts)
15 years ago (2010-01-16)
😕 I think I can help with your ghost Zuora, all thoe'im onle 13 I grew up with ghosts and I think you have 1 ghost not many with a split personality or it could by a romein god janus (i'm american but look him up) please contact me my email is aricthepoop [at] yahoo.com
luckysmc (1 stories) (5 posts)
15 years ago (2010-01-03)
Usually when you smell a scent that is usually not around you constantly that is a loved one who passed away; telling you that they are watching over you. I have run across this perfume that my granny who has been dead for over 6 years now (RIP) and nobody in my family wears that type of perfume. I know it was her telling me she was with me and watching over me...
If you really want to talk to your protector try having one of your friends be with you. Do a transe... You lay on the floor (in a peaceful and quiet room) while your friend sits there. You will get tired and as long as you only allow your protector to jump into your body; your friend can ask the questions that you want to know... Might sound crazy but it does work.
If you really want to talk to your protector try having one of your friends be with you. Do a transe... You lay on the floor (in a peaceful and quiet room) while your friend sits there. You will get tired and as long as you only allow your protector to jump into your body; your friend can ask the questions that you want to know... Might sound crazy but it does work.
TheLightBeforeDawn (5 stories) (41 posts)
15 years ago (2009-12-18)
Hi, this is TLBD, I just wanted to say that I have had not really similar but almost, experiences during which I cannot remember what happened or what I did. I have had no experiences with entities. It usually happened when I was tired, so I just thought that they were blank outs because my brain was so tired that it, 'stopped working'. But after it happened when I wasn't tired, I clued in that they were black outs, not just malfunctions of my over tired brain. I hope that it all gets better. I know just how scary it is!
Goddess Bless,
TLBD.
Goddess Bless,
TLBD.
Thealoneone (1 stories) (77 posts)
15 years ago (2009-12-15)
You. You were chosen by spirits for a particular reason, don't ignore it! Let it in, let it talk to YOU not you talk to it.
Ghostsexing (2 posts)
15 years ago (2009-12-03)
In reading your story I can see 3 different things.
1. As a female your thoughts and feelings enhance your experiences as such magic spells and and voodoo maintain that same coarse.
(if you believe in it enough you can make it happen)
2. The spirit that seems to help you is a mother type spirit and may have a family attachment to you.
3. The sexual spirit is a sexual preditar, and uses fear to get what it wants and try to keep you in its grasp (The mother type spirit confronted that spirit and as such the reason why the attacks have stopped.
You now have a protector but do not depend on it as it will not interfere with your life as you must live it as it had once lived.
My out of body experiences have included only 2 and both included a blank white background and a person standing there as they saw themselves.
This was only confirmed by a person who had out of body experiences and I haven't had any since leaving the apt where a spirit vortex existed.
I must always state this in every comment:
I am a 40 year old male who is non religious and have a scientific inquiring mind.
The reason is don't let your mind or thoughts cloud your judgment as you may create something from nothing.
Ghostsexing
1. As a female your thoughts and feelings enhance your experiences as such magic spells and and voodoo maintain that same coarse.
(if you believe in it enough you can make it happen)
2. The spirit that seems to help you is a mother type spirit and may have a family attachment to you.
3. The sexual spirit is a sexual preditar, and uses fear to get what it wants and try to keep you in its grasp (The mother type spirit confronted that spirit and as such the reason why the attacks have stopped.
You now have a protector but do not depend on it as it will not interfere with your life as you must live it as it had once lived.
My out of body experiences have included only 2 and both included a blank white background and a person standing there as they saw themselves.
This was only confirmed by a person who had out of body experiences and I haven't had any since leaving the apt where a spirit vortex existed.
I must always state this in every comment:
I am a 40 year old male who is non religious and have a scientific inquiring mind.
The reason is don't let your mind or thoughts cloud your judgment as you may create something from nothing.
Ghostsexing
Somhairle (40 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-24)
[at] xvenus
Fool, it clearly isn't a vampire/dragon spirit/demon or any of your weird bullshiat if it stops her from falling down the stairs and cures a fever.
Fool, it clearly isn't a vampire/dragon spirit/demon or any of your weird bullshiat if it stops her from falling down the stairs and cures a fever.
kiaraxox (1 stories) (2 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-09)
i liked your story a lot 😁 I think if it kept going I could sit and read it all day
galleygal (3 stories) (150 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-05)
Sounds good, I'll keep alert for repeat occurances. Gadzooks, you have to put a minimum of 50 characters before you can publish; gotta write more!
WandersintheDark (10 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-02)
Signatures are sort of like solid memory, the image we as people "project" and leave by our attitudes and personalities.
A scent like that could have been a spirit, or it could have been triggered by association. Most people have an associatitive memory, and sometimes "wool gathering" can yield results like hearing your name called or scents.
I can't say I've met a being that smelled of coconut Yet, though lavender and other light and airy smells have been around, but that doesn't make it impossible. Maybe stay sharp and see if it shows up more.
A scent like that could have been a spirit, or it could have been triggered by association. Most people have an associatitive memory, and sometimes "wool gathering" can yield results like hearing your name called or scents.
I can't say I've met a being that smelled of coconut Yet, though lavender and other light and airy smells have been around, but that doesn't make it impossible. Maybe stay sharp and see if it shows up more.
galleygal (3 stories) (150 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-02)
OMG, Wanders, it it so weird that you write about phantom scents! Just last night I kept getting these elusive wisps of a sort of sweet coconut scent, kind of like tanning lotion, as I sat on my sofa reading. The scent would last less than second at a time, just long enough for me to ID it, then it would be gone again. I thought I was about to have a stroke or something lol! That didn't happen (I think) so I've got to ask if you know of anything that has that signature?
galleygal (3 stories) (150 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-02)
Hi Zuora,
Nah, I don't feel under attack at all, I'm having a lot of fun discussing this stuff with you. And I'm glad you found the articles of interest, and I think it's great that you are willing to take these other viewpoints into account; I think some people would be really turned off by it lol!
Yah, I didn't get the vibe that you self-inflicted your wounds, that didn't seem right at all for you... What's really weird about your wounds is that they didn't hurt, or bleed, and healed so quickly; but stigmata covers a pretty large spectrum of phenomena... I just wish I could provide more comprehensive information that you could just link to 😢.
My alligator dream was a real, while-asleep dream, and the pain of the "bite" woke me up, but the marks were just red spots that didn't hurt once I was up. I don't know if they were like alligator bites, there were these red marks on my ankles and calves, that's all I remember. Man, that was so long ago, but I still remember it because it was such a strange thing to happen.
I've heard others agree with you, that certain brain activity isn't merely the cause of phenomena, but the way in which we are able to perceive things that are there but "hidden". In fact, I posted a story and one of my commenters offered that as an explanation for what I had experienced. That's a perfectly valid point, but generally I tend to think that a lot of what we perceive is created in our own minds. To me, the power of the mind, and the idea that it is capable of so much, is just as fun and interesting and strange and spooky as ghosts 😉. But I guess people alive today have about as much chance of proving ghosts exist as we do of fully understanding the mind's potential, so it's all a matter of faith!
Nah, I don't feel under attack at all, I'm having a lot of fun discussing this stuff with you. And I'm glad you found the articles of interest, and I think it's great that you are willing to take these other viewpoints into account; I think some people would be really turned off by it lol!
Yah, I didn't get the vibe that you self-inflicted your wounds, that didn't seem right at all for you... What's really weird about your wounds is that they didn't hurt, or bleed, and healed so quickly; but stigmata covers a pretty large spectrum of phenomena... I just wish I could provide more comprehensive information that you could just link to 😢.
My alligator dream was a real, while-asleep dream, and the pain of the "bite" woke me up, but the marks were just red spots that didn't hurt once I was up. I don't know if they were like alligator bites, there were these red marks on my ankles and calves, that's all I remember. Man, that was so long ago, but I still remember it because it was such a strange thing to happen.
I've heard others agree with you, that certain brain activity isn't merely the cause of phenomena, but the way in which we are able to perceive things that are there but "hidden". In fact, I posted a story and one of my commenters offered that as an explanation for what I had experienced. That's a perfectly valid point, but generally I tend to think that a lot of what we perceive is created in our own minds. To me, the power of the mind, and the idea that it is capable of so much, is just as fun and interesting and strange and spooky as ghosts 😉. But I guess people alive today have about as much chance of proving ghosts exist as we do of fully understanding the mind's potential, so it's all a matter of faith!
WandersintheDark (10 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-02)
Im glad you enjoy my perspective:)
Id actually say that's about right. The majority of people Are neutral. People aren't as swayed to either polar extreme as we'd think. Thats why so many will keep walking or even stop and look when an accident or crime is happening. Life has mostly become about comfort and building money more then working towards a specific "alignment" with their life.
Of course, that's just a very general overview perspective.
Persona, good/evil, is something that Can change. Signatures tend to be very static. Your best friend Steve will always feel like Steve, even if you arent getting along. Its a concept that doesn't go into words well.
I wouldn't say its uncommon to not "feel anything" when you meditate. Especially if you don't really know what your looking for. Unless your doing more then a basic meditation, with some knowhow of what you want to happen, its usually going to feel like your simply a bit numb, maybe lighter or more "fluid" feeling then normal.
Id recommend following the basic meditation in my last post, and if you want to find your energy, to "feel" towards your abdomen.
When I say "feel" in this sense, I mean this: have you ever looked at your foot and concentrated there? Your conciousness seems Moved to that spot. You are focused there, and it seems to be where your awareness is comming from, like a spotlight. Thats the sort of behavior that you need. To shift your awareness to different spots.
Meditation is ideally 30 minute plus each day. Some like before bed, others like when they wake up. Others do more time at once, or several sessions through the day.
To grasp your energy, once you've been able to lie there calmly and Feel everything even out, you would want to focus on several specific things.
You can feel the air running into your lungs, feel them rise and fall like bellows in a forge. You can feel your heart beat, and if you look deeper you can feel the blood coursing through your veins themselves.
These you must find first, because once you have them you can ignore them. Ignore all these feelings and "feel" your conciousness go towards your abdomen. Above your navel and below your sternum. Most people have a large natural resovoir of energy in this spot. It Usually flows in a clockwise manner, and you will feel a sensation of the movement as well as the current as it flows through your body. It may cause your temperature to change touching it. Some experiance heat or cold, others experiance something more akin to static or wind.
Energy is all about how you percieve it. Its very malleable and receptive to Thought. Fustration at the processes will always hinder any energy work, because its very connected to your mental state.
Once you have found the inner pool, you can direct it with your mind. Want and Will it to form a thicker current up your side and to your arm. You can visualise water moving, fire spreading, electricity going through a cable, Whatever helps you.
Once you get it to rise through your arm, you can get it to pool in your hand. Cup your hand and let it rise to fill your palm. Take the fingers from your other hand and press them into the energy to get an idea of how it feels and moves.
You can then hold your hand (one you've practiced with) above the opposite arm and will the energy to come from your palm and "rain" down upon your arm. This is a good exercise in focus, as well as control and perception. Your arm will re-absorb the energy and it will return to the whole.
The next step is practicing with the other arm, and then both simotaniously. Then cupping both hands and pushing the energy out of Both at once, to make a "ball" between your palms. Thats the most basic energy construct, psiball 101 lol.
To be honest, unless you go for reikki training ect, energy work is mostly only good for personal health and well being as well as spiritual growth. (reikki, sp, is a form of legitimised energy healing).
The majority of what I do is energy manipulation. I've been able to make more complex constructs for different effects, defensive or otherwise, as well as create thoughtforms. I also work with elemental magic Somewhat (wolnt claim mastery), and different types of healing (mostly involving Syphoning, which isn't for most people). That covers the majority, though I'm always looking at new things and thinking of new applications.
Specific tips would be to meditate at least 30 minute a day IF your shedual allows. To stick with any energy work you start, because the mind is fickle and you don't want to lose progress. Also to let you know that energy work could easily unlock previously sleeping gifts that may or may not be enjoyable. Empathy is Particular is a double edged sword.
As for resourses I'm a bit more hesitant. I know of a few online communities that are riddled with children and roleplayers more then serious people (which is a shame really) and one of the Best forums went down last year or so... But for general information id suggest: psipog.org, The Library of Knowledge (tomekeepers works) and Very Tentativly Spells of magic.com depending on your interests.
Id actually say that's about right. The majority of people Are neutral. People aren't as swayed to either polar extreme as we'd think. Thats why so many will keep walking or even stop and look when an accident or crime is happening. Life has mostly become about comfort and building money more then working towards a specific "alignment" with their life.
Of course, that's just a very general overview perspective.
Persona, good/evil, is something that Can change. Signatures tend to be very static. Your best friend Steve will always feel like Steve, even if you arent getting along. Its a concept that doesn't go into words well.
I wouldn't say its uncommon to not "feel anything" when you meditate. Especially if you don't really know what your looking for. Unless your doing more then a basic meditation, with some knowhow of what you want to happen, its usually going to feel like your simply a bit numb, maybe lighter or more "fluid" feeling then normal.
Id recommend following the basic meditation in my last post, and if you want to find your energy, to "feel" towards your abdomen.
When I say "feel" in this sense, I mean this: have you ever looked at your foot and concentrated there? Your conciousness seems Moved to that spot. You are focused there, and it seems to be where your awareness is comming from, like a spotlight. Thats the sort of behavior that you need. To shift your awareness to different spots.
Meditation is ideally 30 minute plus each day. Some like before bed, others like when they wake up. Others do more time at once, or several sessions through the day.
To grasp your energy, once you've been able to lie there calmly and Feel everything even out, you would want to focus on several specific things.
You can feel the air running into your lungs, feel them rise and fall like bellows in a forge. You can feel your heart beat, and if you look deeper you can feel the blood coursing through your veins themselves.
These you must find first, because once you have them you can ignore them. Ignore all these feelings and "feel" your conciousness go towards your abdomen. Above your navel and below your sternum. Most people have a large natural resovoir of energy in this spot. It Usually flows in a clockwise manner, and you will feel a sensation of the movement as well as the current as it flows through your body. It may cause your temperature to change touching it. Some experiance heat or cold, others experiance something more akin to static or wind.
Energy is all about how you percieve it. Its very malleable and receptive to Thought. Fustration at the processes will always hinder any energy work, because its very connected to your mental state.
Once you have found the inner pool, you can direct it with your mind. Want and Will it to form a thicker current up your side and to your arm. You can visualise water moving, fire spreading, electricity going through a cable, Whatever helps you.
Once you get it to rise through your arm, you can get it to pool in your hand. Cup your hand and let it rise to fill your palm. Take the fingers from your other hand and press them into the energy to get an idea of how it feels and moves.
You can then hold your hand (one you've practiced with) above the opposite arm and will the energy to come from your palm and "rain" down upon your arm. This is a good exercise in focus, as well as control and perception. Your arm will re-absorb the energy and it will return to the whole.
The next step is practicing with the other arm, and then both simotaniously. Then cupping both hands and pushing the energy out of Both at once, to make a "ball" between your palms. Thats the most basic energy construct, psiball 101 lol.
To be honest, unless you go for reikki training ect, energy work is mostly only good for personal health and well being as well as spiritual growth. (reikki, sp, is a form of legitimised energy healing).
The majority of what I do is energy manipulation. I've been able to make more complex constructs for different effects, defensive or otherwise, as well as create thoughtforms. I also work with elemental magic Somewhat (wolnt claim mastery), and different types of healing (mostly involving Syphoning, which isn't for most people). That covers the majority, though I'm always looking at new things and thinking of new applications.
Specific tips would be to meditate at least 30 minute a day IF your shedual allows. To stick with any energy work you start, because the mind is fickle and you don't want to lose progress. Also to let you know that energy work could easily unlock previously sleeping gifts that may or may not be enjoyable. Empathy is Particular is a double edged sword.
As for resourses I'm a bit more hesitant. I know of a few online communities that are riddled with children and roleplayers more then serious people (which is a shame really) and one of the Best forums went down last year or so... But for general information id suggest: psipog.org, The Library of Knowledge (tomekeepers works) and Very Tentativly Spells of magic.com depending on your interests.
Zuora (1 stories) (6 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-02)
Thanks for replying again WandersintheDark! I always enjoy reading your take on things.
I have a hard time telling humans apart too, so I guess it's no wonder I'm having a difficult time with this 😕. Unless they're really polarized to one side, everyone/everything comes off to me as basically neutral.
I'm really excited to start doing energy work after reading your reply! I've tried doing some things (chi gong, acupuncture, meditation) before. I think I could feel my energy with the first two methods, but I couldn't apply it in any useful ways. Meditation hasn't done anything for me yet, since I normally just fall asleep or get uncomfortable. Even if I do manage to calm my mind, I just don't feel anything.
Would you mind sharing what exactly you do? Is it just meditation? Do you have any tips for a beginner, any resources you recommend?
Thanks!
I have a hard time telling humans apart too, so I guess it's no wonder I'm having a difficult time with this 😕. Unless they're really polarized to one side, everyone/everything comes off to me as basically neutral.
I'm really excited to start doing energy work after reading your reply! I've tried doing some things (chi gong, acupuncture, meditation) before. I think I could feel my energy with the first two methods, but I couldn't apply it in any useful ways. Meditation hasn't done anything for me yet, since I normally just fall asleep or get uncomfortable. Even if I do manage to calm my mind, I just don't feel anything.
Would you mind sharing what exactly you do? Is it just meditation? Do you have any tips for a beginner, any resources you recommend?
Thanks!
WandersintheDark (10 posts)
15 years ago (2009-11-02)
You're quite welcome. Its not a problem to post some of my experiances, and I can shed some light on your curiosity.
I'll say up front my senses Are hightened somewhat, but they're far from perfect.
That being said, telling Beings apart can be quite simple. The psychic/psion community refers to the process as "sensing Psionic Signatures", which is pretty much like saying "an energy version of a fingerprint."
Consider the people you know. When you think of a name, their picture pops into your head. You think of their traits, how their expressions work, how they sound, what they're choices would be. All this gives you a "feeling" of what they are. If you think about it that way, Everyone "feels" different. This "feeling" is their psychic signature.
Especially if a person/spirit is what we would consider "good" or "evil" their signature Will reflect this. Chills, paranoia, a feeling of sickness, or simply being unable to be comfortable around them entirely. Bad vibes.
Some spirits will also leave scents that you can tell them apart with as well, especially if your more familiar with them.
Conviction is important because of how our minds work, and how Their "bodies" respond to their natural laws. Just as we obey gravity, their bodies obey Frequency and Mental force. Though in terms I can't fully explain or enunciate. Hopefully this makes enough sense for you to get my drift.
Everything has a use or purpose with energy, self willed or no. And everything follows the nature of its purpose as well as its own governing principles and laws. Though we might be incapable of putting them to test or words. Think of science like the imperfect twin of magic, in this reguard, and you get a bit closer to proper understanding.
(as an aside, that's why most practitioners encourage self spell writing or creation of personal techniques for energy work.)
You don't need to use gods or angels with a ritual, elements invoked are fine. Personally I dispise ritual work, and only do it when I have to. I find it restrictive and dull. Though the majority of chants ect that Call to (example) angels Prehaps invokes the Mental Image of them and their power, not the actual being. Ie aforementioned banishment rite.
Some languages (though all vibrate) give off specific harmonics that our energy bodies are sensitive to, and helps cause reactions. Sanskrit is one of the most famous, latin to an extent, and even modern languages properly spoken or applied.
As for intent vs rituals, they all have their purposes and its all relative based upon your "modus operendi".
I hope ^ isn't too muddled, more an airing of inspired thought based on your statements then a Fully proper answer I'm afraid.
I do energy work. Its the foundation of Anything I do really. Its what I enjoy most, and I've always found it comes naturally to me. I started touching my energy the year a close family member died. Seems a strange way to cope lol, but sometimes things just lead places in life.
I can honestly say its made me a better person. Helped remove a lot of lingering hate and resentment, and brought a bit more "joie de vivre" into my life.
Meditation can be as simple as lying down, inhaling for 6 sec (holding), exhaling for 6 sec (holding) and then repeat. Very basic but enough to calm the mind and body and open yourself to the energy swirling within.
The first time I had touched my internal energy reserve and been able to manipulate it was Simply a increadible rush. Like nothing I had felt before. Its not always easy to find the truth, or to descern if people you've met are feeding you lies or accurate information, but ultimatly the paths are rewarding.
Im glad you enjoy my rambling nature lol. I find I work better if given a specific question, because when I simply speak it tends to fall into thoughts, theory or simple reminicance.
I'll say up front my senses Are hightened somewhat, but they're far from perfect.
That being said, telling Beings apart can be quite simple. The psychic/psion community refers to the process as "sensing Psionic Signatures", which is pretty much like saying "an energy version of a fingerprint."
Consider the people you know. When you think of a name, their picture pops into your head. You think of their traits, how their expressions work, how they sound, what they're choices would be. All this gives you a "feeling" of what they are. If you think about it that way, Everyone "feels" different. This "feeling" is their psychic signature.
Especially if a person/spirit is what we would consider "good" or "evil" their signature Will reflect this. Chills, paranoia, a feeling of sickness, or simply being unable to be comfortable around them entirely. Bad vibes.
Some spirits will also leave scents that you can tell them apart with as well, especially if your more familiar with them.
Conviction is important because of how our minds work, and how Their "bodies" respond to their natural laws. Just as we obey gravity, their bodies obey Frequency and Mental force. Though in terms I can't fully explain or enunciate. Hopefully this makes enough sense for you to get my drift.
Everything has a use or purpose with energy, self willed or no. And everything follows the nature of its purpose as well as its own governing principles and laws. Though we might be incapable of putting them to test or words. Think of science like the imperfect twin of magic, in this reguard, and you get a bit closer to proper understanding.
(as an aside, that's why most practitioners encourage self spell writing or creation of personal techniques for energy work.)
You don't need to use gods or angels with a ritual, elements invoked are fine. Personally I dispise ritual work, and only do it when I have to. I find it restrictive and dull. Though the majority of chants ect that Call to (example) angels Prehaps invokes the Mental Image of them and their power, not the actual being. Ie aforementioned banishment rite.
Some languages (though all vibrate) give off specific harmonics that our energy bodies are sensitive to, and helps cause reactions. Sanskrit is one of the most famous, latin to an extent, and even modern languages properly spoken or applied.
As for intent vs rituals, they all have their purposes and its all relative based upon your "modus operendi".
I hope ^ isn't too muddled, more an airing of inspired thought based on your statements then a Fully proper answer I'm afraid.
I do energy work. Its the foundation of Anything I do really. Its what I enjoy most, and I've always found it comes naturally to me. I started touching my energy the year a close family member died. Seems a strange way to cope lol, but sometimes things just lead places in life.
I can honestly say its made me a better person. Helped remove a lot of lingering hate and resentment, and brought a bit more "joie de vivre" into my life.
Meditation can be as simple as lying down, inhaling for 6 sec (holding), exhaling for 6 sec (holding) and then repeat. Very basic but enough to calm the mind and body and open yourself to the energy swirling within.
The first time I had touched my internal energy reserve and been able to manipulate it was Simply a increadible rush. Like nothing I had felt before. Its not always easy to find the truth, or to descern if people you've met are feeding you lies or accurate information, but ultimatly the paths are rewarding.
Im glad you enjoy my rambling nature lol. I find I work better if given a specific question, because when I simply speak it tends to fall into thoughts, theory or simple reminicance.
Zuora (1 stories) (6 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-31)
WandersintheDark: Thanks for taking the time to reply again! I would love to read about your experiences, if you decide to post them.
I'm just curious about one thing-how did you know they were different entities? You never thought they could be the same one? That's one thing I'm having trouble distinguishing.
I agree with what you're saying about conviction being the driving force behind a lot of those 'rituals'. Which is probably why it never worked for me before... But on the same note, it makes me think that similar ones wouldn't work either.
It's not that I don't believe in God or angels, but I do have some doubts that they can be called forth with a song and dance, so to speak. If the intent is just enough, I'd rather forgo the rest. I've always felt silly doing them.
Do you do any energy work yourself? I've always admired those with heightened senses, and I think I would take the same course of action even if I wasn't going through this experience.
As for meditation, I normally fall asleep/my back starts hurting for that to do much for me 😳.
If you choose to reply again, feel free to make it as long and rambly as you like 😁.
Galleygal: Thank you for taking the time to post that information! I've heard of sleep paralysis, but I don't think that's the case with me. I can feel it around when I'm wide awake and fully able to move.
Sometimes when I see it in a 'dream' it's pretty similar to what's been described, but given that I can sense it when I'm fully conscious (and it does similar things then), I tend to believe that the other experience is real as well. I've never had those kind of experiences before this thing showed up.
The second link was an interesting read! Instead of concluding that it was all in her mind as the article suggests, I'm open to the possibility that the electrical stimulation allowed her to sense something she normally wouldn't have.
It just seems that if the topic was something conventionally accepted, the above article would just be 'explaining' why it happens, opposed to disputing why it doesn't exist.
I mean, isn't that just the same as saying 'sadness' doesn't exist? It is caused by a chemical imbalance. That's just like saying there are no such things as emotions, only the inner workings that cause that by product are valid. Well, that's how I see it anyway 😊.
I did not know that there was such a thing as non religious stigmata. In any case, self infliction is a pretty laughable 'scientific' explanation. I know that belief is enough to cause bodily changes, and I might even believe that as an explanation for some cases of stigmata.
Did you believe your alligator dream was real? Were the marks consistent with alligator bites?
When it happened to me, I definitely didn't think it was real. I would expect something like that to hurt, and it didn't. It didn't even feel the way it should have.
I'm just curious-do you only believe that all paranormal occurrences have a scientific explanation? I saw that you believe in ghosts, but I'm sure there are many articles that disprove their existence.
I hope it doesn't feel like I'm attacking you, because that's not my intention at all. I'm just stating my reactions to what I've been shown, and am curious about what your beliefs are.
I'm just curious about one thing-how did you know they were different entities? You never thought they could be the same one? That's one thing I'm having trouble distinguishing.
I agree with what you're saying about conviction being the driving force behind a lot of those 'rituals'. Which is probably why it never worked for me before... But on the same note, it makes me think that similar ones wouldn't work either.
It's not that I don't believe in God or angels, but I do have some doubts that they can be called forth with a song and dance, so to speak. If the intent is just enough, I'd rather forgo the rest. I've always felt silly doing them.
Do you do any energy work yourself? I've always admired those with heightened senses, and I think I would take the same course of action even if I wasn't going through this experience.
As for meditation, I normally fall asleep/my back starts hurting for that to do much for me 😳.
If you choose to reply again, feel free to make it as long and rambly as you like 😁.
Galleygal: Thank you for taking the time to post that information! I've heard of sleep paralysis, but I don't think that's the case with me. I can feel it around when I'm wide awake and fully able to move.
Sometimes when I see it in a 'dream' it's pretty similar to what's been described, but given that I can sense it when I'm fully conscious (and it does similar things then), I tend to believe that the other experience is real as well. I've never had those kind of experiences before this thing showed up.
The second link was an interesting read! Instead of concluding that it was all in her mind as the article suggests, I'm open to the possibility that the electrical stimulation allowed her to sense something she normally wouldn't have.
It just seems that if the topic was something conventionally accepted, the above article would just be 'explaining' why it happens, opposed to disputing why it doesn't exist.
I mean, isn't that just the same as saying 'sadness' doesn't exist? It is caused by a chemical imbalance. That's just like saying there are no such things as emotions, only the inner workings that cause that by product are valid. Well, that's how I see it anyway 😊.
I did not know that there was such a thing as non religious stigmata. In any case, self infliction is a pretty laughable 'scientific' explanation. I know that belief is enough to cause bodily changes, and I might even believe that as an explanation for some cases of stigmata.
Did you believe your alligator dream was real? Were the marks consistent with alligator bites?
When it happened to me, I definitely didn't think it was real. I would expect something like that to hurt, and it didn't. It didn't even feel the way it should have.
I'm just curious-do you only believe that all paranormal occurrences have a scientific explanation? I saw that you believe in ghosts, but I'm sure there are many articles that disprove their existence.
I hope it doesn't feel like I'm attacking you, because that's not my intention at all. I'm just stating my reactions to what I've been shown, and am curious about what your beliefs are.
galleygal (3 stories) (150 posts)
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15 years ago (2009-10-31)
Hi Zuora,
Dissociative states can occur during disrupted REM or NREM sleep that make the dreamer feel as though they are being stalked, held down, sat upon, paralyzed, and/or lacking control. Most people will normally feel aroused during REM sleep (my husband calls this "morning wood" lol); when you combine that with the disruption of REM described above, it seems like the physical, sexual sensations come from outside yourself, thus people attribute the sensation to an external force, i.e. Incubi, succubi. These sensations are very real and can be very arousing/frightening. Wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasomnia
The angular gyrus is a point in the brain where the parietal and temporal lobes meet. It's like a "hot point" for multimodal sensation and perception (among other things) and all sorts of crazy stuff can happen when the functioning in that area is disrupted or experiences trauma.
Recent studies are exploring the idea that disruption of the functioning of the angular gyrus of the brain is responsible for feelings of dissociation associated with out-of-body-experiences, and other studies in sensation and perception demonstrate how people can come to feel that they are "outside" themselves. This state can occur anytime, while awake and walking around and while in bed. NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/03/health/psychology/03shad.html
The bite marks may be stigmata. I had this happen to me once during a dream when I was about 7 years old: an alligator bit me as I swam down some river and the pain was so intense I awoke and found marks on my legs. It's hard to find recent resources that describe this phenomena, and even harder to find resources that don't explain it within a religious context, but I include wiki for your consideration. Scroll down to the section on scientific research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata
The onset of your occurrences at age 12, and the cessation of events as you get older, tends to support the suggestion that these events can be attributed to the changing physiology of puberty. Also, since you are waiting to be married before having sex, this may be creating some internal tensions that exacerbate your symptoms.
I don't know if you will find any explanations of why YOU are experiencing these things, as opposed to me or anyone else, or if there are cures for this stuff, but you may find some comfort in knowing that it is NOT NECESSARILY a ghost or spirit responsible for what's going on.
Sorry about using Wikipedia as a source, but I'd have to get to a library to access more authoritative resources. Anyway, wiki can at least get you started and maybe you can visit the library yourself to get more information. I'm a librarian (with subject matter expertise in psychology!😊), and I know you can trust librarians to be discreet and not judge should you ask them for help finding more information on these subjects.
Good luck!
Dissociative states can occur during disrupted REM or NREM sleep that make the dreamer feel as though they are being stalked, held down, sat upon, paralyzed, and/or lacking control. Most people will normally feel aroused during REM sleep (my husband calls this "morning wood" lol); when you combine that with the disruption of REM described above, it seems like the physical, sexual sensations come from outside yourself, thus people attribute the sensation to an external force, i.e. Incubi, succubi. These sensations are very real and can be very arousing/frightening. Wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasomnia
The angular gyrus is a point in the brain where the parietal and temporal lobes meet. It's like a "hot point" for multimodal sensation and perception (among other things) and all sorts of crazy stuff can happen when the functioning in that area is disrupted or experiences trauma.
Recent studies are exploring the idea that disruption of the functioning of the angular gyrus of the brain is responsible for feelings of dissociation associated with out-of-body-experiences, and other studies in sensation and perception demonstrate how people can come to feel that they are "outside" themselves. This state can occur anytime, while awake and walking around and while in bed. NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/03/health/psychology/03shad.html
The bite marks may be stigmata. I had this happen to me once during a dream when I was about 7 years old: an alligator bit me as I swam down some river and the pain was so intense I awoke and found marks on my legs. It's hard to find recent resources that describe this phenomena, and even harder to find resources that don't explain it within a religious context, but I include wiki for your consideration. Scroll down to the section on scientific research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata
The onset of your occurrences at age 12, and the cessation of events as you get older, tends to support the suggestion that these events can be attributed to the changing physiology of puberty. Also, since you are waiting to be married before having sex, this may be creating some internal tensions that exacerbate your symptoms.
I don't know if you will find any explanations of why YOU are experiencing these things, as opposed to me or anyone else, or if there are cures for this stuff, but you may find some comfort in knowing that it is NOT NECESSARILY a ghost or spirit responsible for what's going on.
Sorry about using Wikipedia as a source, but I'd have to get to a library to access more authoritative resources. Anyway, wiki can at least get you started and maybe you can visit the library yourself to get more information. I'm a librarian (with subject matter expertise in psychology!😊), and I know you can trust librarians to be discreet and not judge should you ask them for help finding more information on these subjects.
Good luck!
WandersintheDark (10 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-31)
I have had several interactions with spirits myself, but prehaps I have been one of the lucky ones that simply hasnt run across much negativity. Call it dumb luck ^^
The ones I have met stay or leave of their own accord and haven't caused me any harm. So I can't be considered an expert in banishings or ejecting spirits from a place. But I know what more learned collegues assure me Would work.
Personally, of everyone here id trust Succubusseds word and works the most. He seems extremely knowledgable and has had a lot of experiance with entities.
(as an aside, I believe its the strength of the human Conviction that has the potential to repel spirits when invoking the name of god. Ie it works because we Believe it. Most people arent... Zealous enough to make an unreality come true though)
Id suggest not all entities will act or be mature, just like with humans. Their heirarchy is so much different from ours, and their "lower orders" of being can be quite nasty.
Black salt wouldn't bring more to you, because it makes a line that is disruptive to the energy of spiritual beings. Sort of like a dead zone for them.
The lesser banishing ritual (mostly verbal with a few guestures ect) of the pentagram invokes angels I believe. (as another aside, while specific gods might be dubious, angels generally seem to exist and be rather helpful. Prehaps because of their popularity). Its not my Personal style, but I'm more confrontational ^^
To be honest, Yes. Any energy work has the potential to make you "noticible" to entities and spirits. This is because your refining and focusing your personal energy. Think of it as feeding a fire, you Shine brighter to anyone that can see. On the upside, you will sharpen your senses. And especially if you have good aptitude for it, you can learn to manipulate your energy for your own defence against spirits.
Plus its very good for your soul, and mental well being to even meditate. (I confess curiosity about any energy work Succubussed practices but eh:P)
I appologise for the lengthy, and somewhat rambling reply. If you have any questions you'd like me to answer I definatly will.
The ones I have met stay or leave of their own accord and haven't caused me any harm. So I can't be considered an expert in banishings or ejecting spirits from a place. But I know what more learned collegues assure me Would work.
Personally, of everyone here id trust Succubusseds word and works the most. He seems extremely knowledgable and has had a lot of experiance with entities.
(as an aside, I believe its the strength of the human Conviction that has the potential to repel spirits when invoking the name of god. Ie it works because we Believe it. Most people arent... Zealous enough to make an unreality come true though)
Id suggest not all entities will act or be mature, just like with humans. Their heirarchy is so much different from ours, and their "lower orders" of being can be quite nasty.
Black salt wouldn't bring more to you, because it makes a line that is disruptive to the energy of spiritual beings. Sort of like a dead zone for them.
The lesser banishing ritual (mostly verbal with a few guestures ect) of the pentagram invokes angels I believe. (as another aside, while specific gods might be dubious, angels generally seem to exist and be rather helpful. Prehaps because of their popularity). Its not my Personal style, but I'm more confrontational ^^
To be honest, Yes. Any energy work has the potential to make you "noticible" to entities and spirits. This is because your refining and focusing your personal energy. Think of it as feeding a fire, you Shine brighter to anyone that can see. On the upside, you will sharpen your senses. And especially if you have good aptitude for it, you can learn to manipulate your energy for your own defence against spirits.
Plus its very good for your soul, and mental well being to even meditate. (I confess curiosity about any energy work Succubussed practices but eh:P)
I appologise for the lengthy, and somewhat rambling reply. If you have any questions you'd like me to answer I definatly will.
Zuora (1 stories) (6 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-30)
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I just noticed that the formatting isn't exactly the same as when I submitted it (some of the punctuation is gone, some of the paragraphs are merged), so I apologize for the parts that are hard to read 😲.
Hayle: I've thought about it, but I have an aversion to talking out loud. I just don't want anyone else to hear me, and I barely have time where I'm completely alone. I will post any results if I do end up trying that though!
Elner: I'm a realist. I know how my story sounds, and there are some parts that I wouldn't believe either.
I normally wouldn't bother to add a statement like that in-I only did it for this site because stories deemed to be fictitious are rejected. I spent a few good hours writing my account up, and I didn't want that all to be for nothing.
My purpose wasn't to convince unbelievers-rather to receive insight from those who are knowledgeable in this area.
WandersintheDark: Thank you for the advice. I think finding someone local would be the last resort for me as well, since I really don't want people who actually know me to know about this. It's hypocritical, but I would also be skeptical of them until proven otherwise.
As for the other things, I haven't heard of them before, and I'll definitely keep them in mind. I'm just worried that proceeding in that manner might bring more things to me. I am interested in the energy work though, since I've already been thinking about it just for my own personal development.
ZiShu: It sounds like you don't have time, so I won't e-mail you. Your comments already revealed a lot of your story. I'll just say good luck to you, and hopefully you'll finally be free from oppression soon.
If I can speak the next time, I'll ask that question!
Succubussed: I was hoping you would reply! I've seen your story and a lot of your comments here. I've also seen your board... I was pretty surprised how many people mentioned similar experiences to me (the out of body experiences, healing, etc). All of the other succubus/incubus stories I've read before were sort of one dimensional, which is why I didn't really think I was experiencing the same thing.
I think you're right about that. I should be able to discern its true nature, and I should know intuitively what to do. I've heard of a lot of different methods that have been used, but I've felt silly doing a lot of them. I think the only thing I'll do for now is start tuning in to my higher self.
The one that's still here...well, the predominant one, if there's still more than one. I definitely don't think it's evil, but it doesn't seem very spiritually advanced either. It just reminds me of any human I might come across. Sometimes it seems pretty nice, other times, it seems like an immature jerk.
I appreciate your advice. I don't know if I want to take it to the next level, and I guess my indecisiveness is my main problem.
I'm just wondering-do 'sex spirits' stay around even if you don't want to have sex with them? I'm more interested in talking with it than anything else.
I do notice its presence daily, but sexual events rarely occur since I started ignoring it. It's also pretty 'innocent' compared to the other encounters I've read. I've probably had three experiences in the last month or so, none of them sex.
Galleygal: I'd love to hear them! Please feel free to post if you have the time. I have read some 'scientific' explanations for some aspects, but definitely nothing about the wounds. I would be most interested in that!
Tee_jo1980: That would be a nice thought! I personally don't think that's the case with me. I do want to get married someday, so hopefully my soul mate isn't already dead 😜. I can feel its presence almost all the time, and I don't think humans can stay out of their body for that long?
The biggest thing probably is, I know my soul mate wouldn't act the way this thing does.
Hayle: I've thought about it, but I have an aversion to talking out loud. I just don't want anyone else to hear me, and I barely have time where I'm completely alone. I will post any results if I do end up trying that though!
Elner: I'm a realist. I know how my story sounds, and there are some parts that I wouldn't believe either.
I normally wouldn't bother to add a statement like that in-I only did it for this site because stories deemed to be fictitious are rejected. I spent a few good hours writing my account up, and I didn't want that all to be for nothing.
My purpose wasn't to convince unbelievers-rather to receive insight from those who are knowledgeable in this area.
WandersintheDark: Thank you for the advice. I think finding someone local would be the last resort for me as well, since I really don't want people who actually know me to know about this. It's hypocritical, but I would also be skeptical of them until proven otherwise.
As for the other things, I haven't heard of them before, and I'll definitely keep them in mind. I'm just worried that proceeding in that manner might bring more things to me. I am interested in the energy work though, since I've already been thinking about it just for my own personal development.
ZiShu: It sounds like you don't have time, so I won't e-mail you. Your comments already revealed a lot of your story. I'll just say good luck to you, and hopefully you'll finally be free from oppression soon.
If I can speak the next time, I'll ask that question!
Succubussed: I was hoping you would reply! I've seen your story and a lot of your comments here. I've also seen your board... I was pretty surprised how many people mentioned similar experiences to me (the out of body experiences, healing, etc). All of the other succubus/incubus stories I've read before were sort of one dimensional, which is why I didn't really think I was experiencing the same thing.
I think you're right about that. I should be able to discern its true nature, and I should know intuitively what to do. I've heard of a lot of different methods that have been used, but I've felt silly doing a lot of them. I think the only thing I'll do for now is start tuning in to my higher self.
The one that's still here...well, the predominant one, if there's still more than one. I definitely don't think it's evil, but it doesn't seem very spiritually advanced either. It just reminds me of any human I might come across. Sometimes it seems pretty nice, other times, it seems like an immature jerk.
I appreciate your advice. I don't know if I want to take it to the next level, and I guess my indecisiveness is my main problem.
I'm just wondering-do 'sex spirits' stay around even if you don't want to have sex with them? I'm more interested in talking with it than anything else.
I do notice its presence daily, but sexual events rarely occur since I started ignoring it. It's also pretty 'innocent' compared to the other encounters I've read. I've probably had three experiences in the last month or so, none of them sex.
Galleygal: I'd love to hear them! Please feel free to post if you have the time. I have read some 'scientific' explanations for some aspects, but definitely nothing about the wounds. I would be most interested in that!
Tee_jo1980: That would be a nice thought! I personally don't think that's the case with me. I do want to get married someday, so hopefully my soul mate isn't already dead 😜. I can feel its presence almost all the time, and I don't think humans can stay out of their body for that long?
The biggest thing probably is, I know my soul mate wouldn't act the way this thing does.
tee_jo1980 (1 stories) (11 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-30)
Maybe the spell you did to find your soul mate really did work and this entitie is his soul visiting you and that is why he can not talk to you or communicate. As for the bad entitie, well there is always bad with good, but doing a spell could have attracted the bad one. Keep us updated! ❤
galleygal (3 stories) (150 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-30)
Hi Zuora,
I believe you, but I do think there are physical explanantions for your experiences, certain sleep disorders and parasomnias that would create the conditions you describe, including the sexual feelings, the out-of-body experiences, and the wounds on your wrist.
I'm guessing that doesn't make any of it less scary or real, though! Anyway, if you are interested in hearing about this other stuff, let me know and I'll post it here (right now there's too much to put, it'd take all day!)
Good luck 😊
I believe you, but I do think there are physical explanantions for your experiences, certain sleep disorders and parasomnias that would create the conditions you describe, including the sexual feelings, the out-of-body experiences, and the wounds on your wrist.
I'm guessing that doesn't make any of it less scary or real, though! Anyway, if you are interested in hearing about this other stuff, let me know and I'll post it here (right now there's too much to put, it'd take all day!)
Good luck 😊
Succubussed (guest)
15 years ago (2009-10-30)
Zuora, it sounds to me as though you had attracted the attention of several Spirits (or at least two)
I can only go from what you've written and process that through the framework of my own experience and the experiences of others with whom I have had direct contact, but I believe from this account that you attracted two different sorts of Beings.
I believe that the puncture marks and the malevolent feelings were from a negative Entity, and that somehow by perceiving him, you identified yourself as One Who Perceives to those on the other side of the Veil, and you then became the object of attention for a more benign sort of Spirit.
A "Sex Spirit" if you will.
It is my belief that there is a curtain or Veil that separates our dimension from that of the Spit World, and that there are means of passing through or even creating a rift in this barrier.
I believe that when a person notices something through the Veil, the Veil becomes thinner in that spot, and the Beings on the other side are more able to interact with the person who has found the thin spot.
I have been the object of affection for a Sex Spirit for over six years, and I am very familiar with some of what you describe ("a warm, gentle, feeling. Almost like when a part of your body starts to fall asleep, except pleasant, and with your senses retained a warm chill a lingering touch. It has never felt like an actual person was touching me, it never feels that 'real'.") while other elements, such as being held down, having your face pushed, etcetera, are well outside my own experiences.
I do think that Spirits have individual personalities just as varied as do we Humans, and there is a possibility that you've only been dealing with one Spirit who is exhibiting both negative and positive character traits. However, the fact that you feel different energies coming from the Being (s) in that sometimes it feels evil and sometimes good leads me to believe that there are two separate individual Entities involved.
I am a firm believer in the Human instinct of discernment when it comes to detecting true Evil, and I believe our subconscious feelings to be the most reliable gauge of the true nature of an unknown Being in a case like yours.
One of the reasons I do not believe my Succubus to be evil is because she has never even once felt the slightest bit malevolent. I have had a rich and varied life and have encountered true evil in the form of Human Beings, Spirits, and even substances, and in every case the feeling of hatred and base malevolence was unmistakable.
It is my opinion, based on my own experiences, that the reason you felt the presence of evil in some cases, and not in others, and now feel none of the malevolent presence that you felt in the past is because there were two separate individuals, and for whatever reason, the evil one has left.
If I were pressed to present a theory, I would suggest the possibility that the "Good One" made the "Bad One" leave.
This is all just my theory, but it makes sense to me.
As regards communicating with this Being, I don't have many suggestions, but here you go...
1. Be sure that you want the Being to stay before you pursue communicating with him any further. It is my experience (and others with whom I have had contact) that the more you interact with Beings from the other side of the Veil, the greater the rift in the Veil becomes and so the more easily they are able to connect with you. I don't mean that a hole will be ripped and a horde of nasties come pouring out, but rather that the Spirit that has been having sex with you will become much more able to connect with you the more you attempt to connect with him. If you do achieve the ability to communicate, you will notice a rapid increase in the level of his presence in your life.
2. Do not try using a Ouija Board. I have no experience with these devices, but the stories of terrible things happening to those who use them are too numerous to ignore.
3. If you really want to communicate with him, utilize the contact you already have with him (the sex) and intentionally seek this out at regular times on a frequent basis. This form of contact can be used to achieve or enhance other forms of contact, and as I mentioned above, the more you wear away at that thin spot, the more able will you be to perceive and be perceived by this Being on the other side.
4. Talk to him in your mind while he has sexual contact with you, and see if there is any change in what he is doing in response to the things you are saying. An increase in the pleasure in response to something you think to him will be a sign that you are interacting consciously with this Being.
Again, be certain that you want to have him increase his presence in your life in other ways as well before you attempt to communicate with him, since a conscious decision on your part to interact with him and the actions that you take commensurate with this goal will most certainly strengthen his connection with you.
Adversely--and it would seem from this account that you are already aware of this--if you want him to leave, the only (so far as I know) means of doing so is to simply ignore him as much as possible. The sort of advice given freely on this site involving the use of objects such as sage and Holy water and rituals--including the invocation of the name/power of a God or Jesus--is worthless as far as I know. According to my own experience and those with whom I have had contact, all of these methods have proven fruitless in the pursuit of ridding oneself of an Entity, and in addition to wasting one's time, these methods require interacting with the Being, and as I stated above, any deliberate interaction with these Beings seems to strengthen the connection.
I can only go from what you've written and process that through the framework of my own experience and the experiences of others with whom I have had direct contact, but I believe from this account that you attracted two different sorts of Beings.
I believe that the puncture marks and the malevolent feelings were from a negative Entity, and that somehow by perceiving him, you identified yourself as One Who Perceives to those on the other side of the Veil, and you then became the object of attention for a more benign sort of Spirit.
A "Sex Spirit" if you will.
It is my belief that there is a curtain or Veil that separates our dimension from that of the Spit World, and that there are means of passing through or even creating a rift in this barrier.
I believe that when a person notices something through the Veil, the Veil becomes thinner in that spot, and the Beings on the other side are more able to interact with the person who has found the thin spot.
I have been the object of affection for a Sex Spirit for over six years, and I am very familiar with some of what you describe ("a warm, gentle, feeling. Almost like when a part of your body starts to fall asleep, except pleasant, and with your senses retained a warm chill a lingering touch. It has never felt like an actual person was touching me, it never feels that 'real'.") while other elements, such as being held down, having your face pushed, etcetera, are well outside my own experiences.
I do think that Spirits have individual personalities just as varied as do we Humans, and there is a possibility that you've only been dealing with one Spirit who is exhibiting both negative and positive character traits. However, the fact that you feel different energies coming from the Being (s) in that sometimes it feels evil and sometimes good leads me to believe that there are two separate individual Entities involved.
I am a firm believer in the Human instinct of discernment when it comes to detecting true Evil, and I believe our subconscious feelings to be the most reliable gauge of the true nature of an unknown Being in a case like yours.
One of the reasons I do not believe my Succubus to be evil is because she has never even once felt the slightest bit malevolent. I have had a rich and varied life and have encountered true evil in the form of Human Beings, Spirits, and even substances, and in every case the feeling of hatred and base malevolence was unmistakable.
It is my opinion, based on my own experiences, that the reason you felt the presence of evil in some cases, and not in others, and now feel none of the malevolent presence that you felt in the past is because there were two separate individuals, and for whatever reason, the evil one has left.
If I were pressed to present a theory, I would suggest the possibility that the "Good One" made the "Bad One" leave.
This is all just my theory, but it makes sense to me.
As regards communicating with this Being, I don't have many suggestions, but here you go...
1. Be sure that you want the Being to stay before you pursue communicating with him any further. It is my experience (and others with whom I have had contact) that the more you interact with Beings from the other side of the Veil, the greater the rift in the Veil becomes and so the more easily they are able to connect with you. I don't mean that a hole will be ripped and a horde of nasties come pouring out, but rather that the Spirit that has been having sex with you will become much more able to connect with you the more you attempt to connect with him. If you do achieve the ability to communicate, you will notice a rapid increase in the level of his presence in your life.
2. Do not try using a Ouija Board. I have no experience with these devices, but the stories of terrible things happening to those who use them are too numerous to ignore.
3. If you really want to communicate with him, utilize the contact you already have with him (the sex) and intentionally seek this out at regular times on a frequent basis. This form of contact can be used to achieve or enhance other forms of contact, and as I mentioned above, the more you wear away at that thin spot, the more able will you be to perceive and be perceived by this Being on the other side.
4. Talk to him in your mind while he has sexual contact with you, and see if there is any change in what he is doing in response to the things you are saying. An increase in the pleasure in response to something you think to him will be a sign that you are interacting consciously with this Being.
Again, be certain that you want to have him increase his presence in your life in other ways as well before you attempt to communicate with him, since a conscious decision on your part to interact with him and the actions that you take commensurate with this goal will most certainly strengthen his connection with you.
Adversely--and it would seem from this account that you are already aware of this--if you want him to leave, the only (so far as I know) means of doing so is to simply ignore him as much as possible. The sort of advice given freely on this site involving the use of objects such as sage and Holy water and rituals--including the invocation of the name/power of a God or Jesus--is worthless as far as I know. According to my own experience and those with whom I have had contact, all of these methods have proven fruitless in the pursuit of ridding oneself of an Entity, and in addition to wasting one's time, these methods require interacting with the Being, and as I stated above, any deliberate interaction with these Beings seems to strengthen the connection.
ZiShu (281 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
Hey Zuora,
Thanks for reading a lot of comments and such.
Well there's a lot of things I would like to say but I cannot because of certain people on here, and that demons are possibly watching me already. In fact lately they have been plotting and postponing really important things against me.
They've been figuring out things about me... If you want try e-mailing me.
I would post my story but its like I never have time or other things... For now I'd say, try to get into the practice of remembering to control yourself in astral travels, that is first step. Testing them is simply asking them, do they come in the name of God? Evil ones will definitely say no, they will not lie about that. It is the only lie they cannot pass.
God Bless
Thanks for reading a lot of comments and such.
Well there's a lot of things I would like to say but I cannot because of certain people on here, and that demons are possibly watching me already. In fact lately they have been plotting and postponing really important things against me.
They've been figuring out things about me... If you want try e-mailing me.
I would post my story but its like I never have time or other things... For now I'd say, try to get into the practice of remembering to control yourself in astral travels, that is first step. Testing them is simply asking them, do they come in the name of God? Evil ones will definitely say no, they will not lie about that. It is the only lie they cannot pass.
God Bless
WandersintheDark (10 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
sometimes spirits get attached to us, some good some malevolent.
There are minor banishings and cleansings ect that can be done by you. Most psychics can't really help from the internet, because of distances and indeterminate factors as well. Id suggest looking around for a local wiccan, or if it gets Really bad even a priest. Though for Me that would be a last resort.
There is the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram, there is also a sort of chant to block negative entities. But its had varying degrees of effectivity and usually only protects the home, not the person.
You could line doors/windows with black salt as well. (sea salt mixed with ashes or black pepper).
I hope this helps you.
As an aside, learning energy manipulation Might help too... But depending on exactly What it really is fighting back might be just as hard on you as letting it get away with what its doing
There are minor banishings and cleansings ect that can be done by you. Most psychics can't really help from the internet, because of distances and indeterminate factors as well. Id suggest looking around for a local wiccan, or if it gets Really bad even a priest. Though for Me that would be a last resort.
There is the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram, there is also a sort of chant to block negative entities. But its had varying degrees of effectivity and usually only protects the home, not the person.
You could line doors/windows with black salt as well. (sea salt mixed with ashes or black pepper).
I hope this helps you.
As an aside, learning energy manipulation Might help too... But depending on exactly What it really is fighting back might be just as hard on you as letting it get away with what its doing
elner (38 posts)
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15 years ago (2009-10-29)
the only person that is being afraid of their story not getting published is the one that's not real because if it really happened then your not afraid that it wouldn't be accepted because IT DID REALLY HAPPEN and. If it really did happen and it wasn't accepted it just means its not scary enough to be posted here or your adding some stuff that didn't happen 🤔
Hayle (12 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
wow I think you should put a recording device by you and maybe try to contact it... Then if you did you could play back the tape and maybe hopefully you can hear answers to your questions.
take care
P.s. Please keep us posted and please let us now if you hear anything in the tape if you did try to contact it
take care
P.s. Please keep us posted and please let us now if you hear anything in the tape if you did try to contact it
Zuora (1 stories) (6 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
ZiShu: How do you test them? The problem with the last thing you suggested is that I never have any control when I'm out of my body. It almost feels like I'm asleep, and it rarely happens anymore anyway.
When it happens during the day, I'm normally by myself, and I can't do anything there either. Plus, it's always so brief.
I've seen several of your comments, but have noticed that you've never posted your own story before. I would be very interested in reading it!
Ravenshiek: Well, I definitely wasn't expecting a response like that 😜.
Lexie4308: I did try before, but not out loud. I always feel silly talking out loud, since it makes me feel like I'm just talking to myself 😐. I guess I'm also worried that would drive all of them away, not just the one I'm intending it for.
Marcink125: I didn't split it up because I wanted to tell my story in its entirety. There's jumping around because it jumps between different periods of my life, all in chronological order. If there's something you don't understand, just ask and I'll see if I can clarify.
ZiShu: How do you test them? The problem with the last thing you suggested is that I never have any control when I'm out of my body. It almost feels like I'm asleep, and it rarely happens anymore anyway.
When it happens during the day, I'm normally by myself, and I can't do anything there either. Plus, it's always so brief.
I've seen several of your comments, but have noticed that you've never posted your own story before. I would be very interested in reading it!
Ravenshiek: Well, I definitely wasn't expecting a response like that 😜.
Lexie4308: I did try before, but not out loud. I always feel silly talking out loud, since it makes me feel like I'm just talking to myself 😐. I guess I'm also worried that would drive all of them away, not just the one I'm intending it for.
Marcink125: I didn't split it up because I wanted to tell my story in its entirety. There's jumping around because it jumps between different periods of my life, all in chronological order. If there's something you don't understand, just ask and I'll see if I can clarify.
marcink125 (2 stories) (27 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
You could have separated these into several different stories. It really confused me at times. Why so much jumping around?
lexie4308 (6 stories) (22 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
If you really want it gone (or at least want the one you think is bad) I would continue ignoring it but you can also tell it to leave you alone. I don't know if you have tried that but sometimes you just have to be a little forceful:)
ravenshiek (1 stories) (11 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-29)
this story turned me on 😁 it was cool as well I spose... Kinda um ok this was awkward
ZiShu (281 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-28)
I believe the sexual relationship you have with it comes from an Incubus. Either that or a demon or spirit of lust. They are never good.
The white being that comforts you at all times can most likely be an Angel or spirit guide. It will definitely not give you pleasures of those types.
All together you could be tricked into something unknown.
God does eventually come to aid, He just takes some time, unless you are really close to Him.
I have similar experiences, I can also travel out of my body. However anything that I see, I can defer if they are from good or Evil. You have to test these spirits out.
I have had succubi attached to me for awhile, and very similar things happen to me, except the healing and comfortable feeling. From my understand anything pleasures is only given to confuse the victim to align with them.
If you want answers, the next time you go out of your body, command it in the name of God to answer your questions.
God Bless
The white being that comforts you at all times can most likely be an Angel or spirit guide. It will definitely not give you pleasures of those types.
All together you could be tricked into something unknown.
God does eventually come to aid, He just takes some time, unless you are really close to Him.
I have similar experiences, I can also travel out of my body. However anything that I see, I can defer if they are from good or Evil. You have to test these spirits out.
I have had succubi attached to me for awhile, and very similar things happen to me, except the healing and comfortable feeling. From my understand anything pleasures is only given to confuse the victim to align with them.
If you want answers, the next time you go out of your body, command it in the name of God to answer your questions.
God Bless
Zuora (1 stories) (6 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-28)
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Pangie28: I did think it was an incubus (male version of the succubus) at first, but I'm not so sure anymore. The accounts I read weren't that similar to mine, and the sexual aspects described seemed way more intense. It seems like that kind of entity would just be interested in sex all of the time, but those kind of experiences rarely happen to me anymore.
Youngdz79: The thing is, I'm still not sure if this is all from one entity, or if everything above is the effect of my experience with several entities.
If this is all from the same thing, then I agree that the bad outweighs the good, and I would definitely do my best to be rid of it for good.
On the other hand though, if there is one that has always been good to me, I would want to keep that one around!
I haven't tried to contact it in years. You're probably right that it's best to just ignore it. I just wish I knew what was going on.
Pangie28: I did think it was an incubus (male version of the succubus) at first, but I'm not so sure anymore. The accounts I read weren't that similar to mine, and the sexual aspects described seemed way more intense. It seems like that kind of entity would just be interested in sex all of the time, but those kind of experiences rarely happen to me anymore.
Youngdz79: The thing is, I'm still not sure if this is all from one entity, or if everything above is the effect of my experience with several entities.
If this is all from the same thing, then I agree that the bad outweighs the good, and I would definitely do my best to be rid of it for good.
On the other hand though, if there is one that has always been good to me, I would want to keep that one around!
I haven't tried to contact it in years. You're probably right that it's best to just ignore it. I just wish I knew what was going on.
youngdz79 (6 stories) (58 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-28)
After reading your story it sounds to me as if you should keep ignoring they entity just because it has done some good it has also done a lot of negative things which far outweigh the good, the out of body experiences you are having sounds like it is trying to take over your body and this id NOT a good thing. And please stop trying to contact it, it will only come to a horrid end for you I feel
pangie28 (2 stories) (9 posts)
15 years ago (2009-10-28)
i have had expirences with entites my whole life... I honestly can say that it has been nothing like yours... I do feel for you and I have had outer body expirences myself. I'm not sure if this is any help but I was watching a show once that had a similar entity... I think it was called a succubus... They said that it was a sexual entity... So I would suggest starting to look there. If you find anything let me know... Hope that helps a little at least 😊
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