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whitebuffalo (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-13)
Alright. Last chance on the religious debates, here.
I have NO PROBLEM with someone saying "This is what has worked for me..." There is nothing wrong with saying "In the past it has been proven that..." MY point is this: There are those from NUMEROUS religions who DO NOT follow the same belief structures of others, if YOU follow that, fine, but leave it out of the comment section.
If you feel the need to straight up witness to someone and share your testimony, do what the older posters have done here for YEARS, and in doing so, you will be keeping with the guidelines of this site: fire off an e-mail.
There are plenty of other sites on the Net where people can go to for religious help in such matters. In that just about each time someone shares of their faith, one of the comment sections turns itself into a podium, we CAN NOT have that here on site.
IF the author straight up REQUESTS religious council, it can happen on that page. If NOT, it is NOT within the guidelines to do so.
NO ONE is telling ANYONE to keep silent about their belief system. We are ASKING that you be courteous of others who DO NOT share the same views. We are ASKING that the whole "my religion is the ONLY one to follow because..." be stopped. If you MUST do that, request that you can send that person an e-mail.
I have NO PROBLEM with someone saying "This is what has worked for me..." There is nothing wrong with saying "In the past it has been proven that..." MY point is this: There are those from NUMEROUS religions who DO NOT follow the same belief structures of others, if YOU follow that, fine, but leave it out of the comment section.
If you feel the need to straight up witness to someone and share your testimony, do what the older posters have done here for YEARS, and in doing so, you will be keeping with the guidelines of this site: fire off an e-mail.
There are plenty of other sites on the Net where people can go to for religious help in such matters. In that just about each time someone shares of their faith, one of the comment sections turns itself into a podium, we CAN NOT have that here on site.
IF the author straight up REQUESTS religious council, it can happen on that page. If NOT, it is NOT within the guidelines to do so.
NO ONE is telling ANYONE to keep silent about their belief system. We are ASKING that you be courteous of others who DO NOT share the same views. We are ASKING that the whole "my religion is the ONLY one to follow because..." be stopped. If you MUST do that, request that you can send that person an e-mail.
blue_raven80 (13 stories) (338 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
Why can't we just respect each other's belief and please refrain from discussing religious stuff here.
I agree with whitebuffalo. I just notice recently that if someone comments about religion, the rest will follow giving out comments that are no longer related to the poster's story.
C'mon guys, we all have different faiths and beliefs here. And different walks of life. Regardless if you are Muslim, Christian, or what. What matters is what you believe, and if you think your suggestion is helpful for the poster then please do post it.
Sorry, if I will offend someone with this post. Let's put respect back.
I'm not trying to start an argument here, I just want to share my thoughts about the other's comments.
Peace and God Bless you all.
❤
I agree with whitebuffalo. I just notice recently that if someone comments about religion, the rest will follow giving out comments that are no longer related to the poster's story.
C'mon guys, we all have different faiths and beliefs here. And different walks of life. Regardless if you are Muslim, Christian, or what. What matters is what you believe, and if you think your suggestion is helpful for the poster then please do post it.
Sorry, if I will offend someone with this post. Let's put respect back.
I'm not trying to start an argument here, I just want to share my thoughts about the other's comments.
Peace and God Bless you all.
❤
blue_raven80 (13 stories) (338 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
Nice story but really scary. The good part there is that you were able to get rid of the demon that followed you.
God Bless.
❤
God Bless.
❤
Jitow (362 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
LSD, you make a great point and that is exactly what it means to be a Christian. There is nothing that anyone can do good enough to get to Heaven and that is a big point in Christianity, Christ died so that we all could go to Heaven, all you have to do is receive it. I am not part of this site for pleasure, I am here to help people. For the last time, I do not just say what I believe, I say what I have witnessed personally many times. On this website there is the proverbial "white elephant" in the chat room. Noone wnats to come forward and say, this worked once and this worked a couple of times, but Jesus works the every time (which is documented right here on this website, take a pole). Jesus works, folks and there is a reason why and all He wants is for you to seek Him and He will give you the reason. I will not risk one soul going to hell because I did not want to hurt their feelings on a post where I knew what they needed. This is not psychic work folks, this is common sense. In my old way, I could care less where you go for eternity and I don't get any special prize or points if you come to know Christ. I do desparately want everyone who reads this post to have what I have. Blessed assurance, peace that surpasses understanding. God said that He wishes that no man perrish but He also gave us free will to choose. Don't believe the lie, seek Him.
JimD (431 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
Hi;
If it's demonic, get and use, especially at night, Catholic Holy water. If it's gone, good, but they sometimes return. Best of luck. Dukes2352atAOL.com.
If it's demonic, get and use, especially at night, Catholic Holy water. If it's gone, good, but they sometimes return. Best of luck. Dukes2352atAOL.com.
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
P.S. As far as personality goes. I myself can be a total f*cking b*tch, but I know where my HEART is & I think that when it's said cleanliness is next to Godliness, I don't think that it's talking about our homes & toilets I believe it's speaking about our hearts. Good personality or not, what's in your heart?
Just a thought.
~LSD~
Just a thought.
~LSD~
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
I'm ordained in the Christian faith, however I'm not what you would expect or consider a typical Christian would be. I also grew up in a Christian non-denominational church & my dad is a pastor & worship leader for this church to this day. So I've witnesses a...shall we say, "colorful" array of Christians. I know some "Christians" like myself & I also have come across the weirdos. I feel that your religion doesn't really matter when it comes you your "ticket" to Heaven.lol! I believe that it's our own individual relationship with the Lord that counts. But you know that's just what I believe. Whether I am right or wrong non of us can really say, there is only one, the Great Creator who knows. But I believe in my heart of hearts that my name is written in that book ❤ & that's what I believe a part of having faith is. Theres my 2 cents. I have no desire to debate & if I offended any one, my apologies. Bless y'all & much love 😉
~LSD~
~LSD~
whitebuffalo (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
angeldemon, I would be glad to see what I can do for you. I already have an answer, but need to know a bit more on the desire of use.
Why do you not go ahead and shoot me off an e-mail and let me in on the PURPOSE of the holy water (meaning, what are you needing it FOR) and I will get back with you. If you are more comfortable, just pick one of my stories and I will explain, at length, there.
Wa-do.
Why do you not go ahead and shoot me off an e-mail and let me in on the PURPOSE of the holy water (meaning, what are you needing it FOR) and I will get back with you. If you are more comfortable, just pick one of my stories and I will explain, at length, there.
Wa-do.
Rashidah (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
I could not have said that better myself ambercrystal.
I love rational thinking.
I love rational thinking.
ambercrystal (23 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
kashmir- I've heard of demons with red eyes which (I don't really know whether its true but) people can summon. I think you and your friends did the right thing to pray to God.
About religious debate I can only say that I believe every religion is true and that we all are one religion in some way. I also believe whether you go to hell matters about your personality and not whether you're Christian, Muslim or any other religion
About religious debate I can only say that I believe every religion is true and that we all are one religion in some way. I also believe whether you go to hell matters about your personality and not whether you're Christian, Muslim or any other religion
narcissa (4 stories) (77 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
i am very happy to know that these problems have ceased to trouble you. Have a nice life and take care 😊
oldgeorge (41 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
I think the only really good religious lecture is a good example in life. 'Nuff said.
That aside, I think offering suggestions from one's experience, whether everyone agrees or not, is what the site offers. I don't bash anyone for trying to really help others rather than score points.
There are Moslem exorcists, and I think folks from that faith would probably do well to study under an accomplished Islamic exorcist. I have heard about certain Moslem practices second-hand, so I don't feel it would be appropriate for me to post on them. It is also important to consider that there are numerous schools of Islam, which vary tremendously in their views of the occult. For example, a Pakistani Sufi and Saudi Wahabi are going to be as far apart as a Holiness Pentecostal and a Northern Conservative Baptist when it comes to spirit manifestations and possession. I have hearn there are also differences between Sunni and Shia in this regard as well. So, I think talking about a singular 'Islamic' approach may be as elusive as finding a singular 'Christian' approach when you consider how many strains of Christianity presently exist, both Eastern and Western.
That aside, I think offering suggestions from one's experience, whether everyone agrees or not, is what the site offers. I don't bash anyone for trying to really help others rather than score points.
There are Moslem exorcists, and I think folks from that faith would probably do well to study under an accomplished Islamic exorcist. I have heard about certain Moslem practices second-hand, so I don't feel it would be appropriate for me to post on them. It is also important to consider that there are numerous schools of Islam, which vary tremendously in their views of the occult. For example, a Pakistani Sufi and Saudi Wahabi are going to be as far apart as a Holiness Pentecostal and a Northern Conservative Baptist when it comes to spirit manifestations and possession. I have hearn there are also differences between Sunni and Shia in this regard as well. So, I think talking about a singular 'Islamic' approach may be as elusive as finding a singular 'Christian' approach when you consider how many strains of Christianity presently exist, both Eastern and Western.
angeldemon (2 stories) (23 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
i mean help kashmir (forgot your name sorry 😜)
Whitebuffalo: I have a question. I noticed that some people are giving suggestions related to their religion. Such sprinkling holy water, etc. But I do not have that in my religion. So can please you suggest something?
Whitebuffalo: I have a question. I noticed that some people are giving suggestions related to their religion. Such sprinkling holy water, etc. But I do not have that in my religion. So can please you suggest something?
angeldemon (2 stories) (23 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-12)
Rashidah: twinki is a Muslim. I myself am a Muslim and there is no teaching like that which causes us to provoke a religion. And I don't think other religions have it either. Anyways I hope that will be all about religious talk. Let's get back with stuff 😉 and help the person with these paranormal experiences.
narcissa (4 stories) (77 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
Rashidah:
I do not get your case of defending Twinkie. The post before his/her own was just as offending and idiotic, I agree, but that dosent justify the reaction of his/her by any means!
Yes we all have our own faiths and forms of knowing god, but that does not give us a right to insult what others stand for, or the way another person worships god... Such a statement is not acceptable no matter which religion teaches it, ANY comment like that is SIMPLY hateful and outraegous, period!
That being said, I too would like this matter to stop here... Enough time and attention has been wasted on this already. I just hope in future people learn to be more respectful and tolerant. Resting my case.
Thank You all. 😊
I do not get your case of defending Twinkie. The post before his/her own was just as offending and idiotic, I agree, but that dosent justify the reaction of his/her by any means!
Yes we all have our own faiths and forms of knowing god, but that does not give us a right to insult what others stand for, or the way another person worships god... Such a statement is not acceptable no matter which religion teaches it, ANY comment like that is SIMPLY hateful and outraegous, period!
That being said, I too would like this matter to stop here... Enough time and attention has been wasted on this already. I just hope in future people learn to be more respectful and tolerant. Resting my case.
Thank You all. 😊
Aya-Love-Carrots (150 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
I agree with whitebuffalo and the others 😊
Twinki please think before you press the publish button 😊 were here to share some stories/suggestion, not to debate with our religions
-Ayasegawa Yumichika
Twinki please think before you press the publish button 😊 were here to share some stories/suggestion, not to debate with our religions
-Ayasegawa Yumichika
Rashidah (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
I am sorry I did not mean you White buffaloo when I said
'you all are jumping on twinkie's case'
I should of phase that differently.
'you all are jumping on twinkie's case'
I should of phase that differently.
whitebuffalo (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
For the record, I was not jumping on one particular post. I was merely reminding the MASSES that this is NOT a religious site, and as the author did not straight out ask for religious assistance, we should ALL be slow to point out that OUR religion is the ONE true religion. Fact is, MANY of us will more than likely be surprised on the Day of Judgement.
These kinds of comments are jumping up all over this site. It is time for the religious arguments to stop, or this site will cease to be as it was MEANT to be.
Wa-do.
These kinds of comments are jumping up all over this site. It is time for the religious arguments to stop, or this site will cease to be as it was MEANT to be.
Wa-do.
Rashidah (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
I do not understand why you all are jumping on twinkie's case. That is what she learnt from her religion. All religions have their own interpretation of who is god and what his name is.
In fact she did not even started this silly religious argument. If you read the post before her own you will see why twinkie was provoked to make that statement.
I myself saw the comments from both posters to be very offensive.
But I am glad we cleared this up. It makes no point continuing this.
God Bless ❤
In fact she did not even started this silly religious argument. If you read the post before her own you will see why twinkie was provoked to make that statement.
I myself saw the comments from both posters to be very offensive.
But I am glad we cleared this up. It makes no point continuing this.
God Bless ❤
angeldemon (2 stories) (23 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
narcissa: thank you for agreeing.
Whitebuffalo: I am sorry ad it will not happen again. I was just upset by a fellow brother Muslim. Twinki please never make such statements again. Thank you. Allahshukur (God bless)
Whitebuffalo: I am sorry ad it will not happen again. I was just upset by a fellow brother Muslim. Twinki please never make such statements again. Thank you. Allahshukur (God bless)
narcissa (4 stories) (77 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-11)
angeldemon:
I wasn't trying to insult anyone... I made that statement simply to display before TWINKIE how wrong it is to make such ingorant, hate-filled speeches about anyones religion... Am not much of a theist or believer myself, and don't think much of Organized religion either, but to make baseless weird staments about someone like they shall go to HELL is simply atrocious! 😠 😠
It is from this sort of a rabid illogical and intolerant mindset, that much of the religious extremesim problems arise in this world... And AD you are right, for a few miscreants, the whole sect ends up taking the shiat./...thats simply not fair, I agree.
I wasn't trying to insult anyone... I made that statement simply to display before TWINKIE how wrong it is to make such ingorant, hate-filled speeches about anyones religion... Am not much of a theist or believer myself, and don't think much of Organized religion either, but to make baseless weird staments about someone like they shall go to HELL is simply atrocious! 😠 😠
It is from this sort of a rabid illogical and intolerant mindset, that much of the religious extremesim problems arise in this world... And AD you are right, for a few miscreants, the whole sect ends up taking the shiat./...thats simply not fair, I agree.
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
I'm so blessed to see how the Holy Spirit worked in this situation. Bless you & praise Jesus! & to this TWINKIE, all I have to say is SHAME ON YOU! I suggest you have a little respect here. Yes in the end we will ALL know the TRUTH & IT IS WRITTEN! Bless you & yours. Much love to y'all.
~LSD~
~LSD~
whitebuffalo (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
I hate to start beating people over the head again with this, but this is NOT a religious site. PLEASE refrain from the religious comments that seem to point out that there is but ONE religion in this world.
Thank you.
Thank you.
kikibeauty35 (1 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
I have to say that your story is good and believable unlike many others that I have read that really seem made up. Anyway, I'm not very religious, but I do believe in god and I know that he loves us all... And our faith will always help us defeat the devil 😁
Rashidah (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
I think certain people need to realize that there are many other people in this site that comes from different religious backgrounds.
I respect all religions. If someone chooses one that is their personal decision and no one else's business. That is all I am going to say on this topic.
I respect all religions. If someone chooses one that is their personal decision and no one else's business. That is all I am going to say on this topic.
Jitow (362 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
I am not trying to start an argument here but some people are very confused about Christianity. I know one fact, if yuou do not have the Holy Spirit indwelling in you there is no way that you can understand the Bible the way it is meant to be. If you are trulysearching God will discern enough for you to discover Christ, once accepted you recieve the Holy Spirit that discerns the Word of God for you. If you have not done this it is expected that people will be ignorant to true Christianity. You will not get it until you receive it.
Rashidah (guest)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
Brianna
I will like to understand something about your outlandish comment.
You are saying that God would not love us or save us if we ain't Christains?
Maybe you should think first before you press the publish button 😐
I will like to understand something about your outlandish comment.
You are saying that God would not love us or save us if we ain't Christains?
Maybe you should think first before you press the publish button 😐
angeldemon (2 stories) (23 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
spiritual twinki. I am a muslim myself. But I would never abuse another religion. Prophet Muhammad (S) sent the Messages of Allah to us. He once said, "Preach what I preach you, as Allah said the same to me." and "...show people the right path, but bring no harm to what they used to believe." Arabic cannot be translated fully in english so this can be the closest you translate into. And as I m a muslim and also a science student. Paranormal things such as these are not that convincing to me. But that is why I took science:) I want to blend science with these paranormal activities to get a convincing explanation.
Kashmir this is a great story. I hope your baby will grow up to be a healthy person. Because in such unpleasant environment. Children end up growing up to be affected by childhood trauma.
Narcissa: please I beg of you. I know you didn't mean it but don't generalize Muslims as terrorists. And muslims who are terrorists are not true followers of Allah. They are simply making an act of evil and vengeance. Just like terrorists of other religions! The only difference is that the muslim terrorists are giving a abusive statement related to what us REAL muslims believe... I hope you understand.
Kashmir this is a great story. I hope your baby will grow up to be a healthy person. Because in such unpleasant environment. Children end up growing up to be affected by childhood trauma.
Narcissa: please I beg of you. I know you didn't mean it but don't generalize Muslims as terrorists. And muslims who are terrorists are not true followers of Allah. They are simply making an act of evil and vengeance. Just like terrorists of other religions! The only difference is that the muslim terrorists are giving a abusive statement related to what us REAL muslims believe... I hope you understand.
narcissa (4 stories) (77 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
both brianna and spritual_twinkie is wrong.
No religion is the absolute truth, mainly beacuse first and foremost, faith is subjective. There is no such thing as "X religion is true and Y is false"
😆 😆 😆
And twinkie, how is that a "fact"? Just beacuse some religiously bigoted crackpot said it, it dosent become a "fact". I might also say that all muslims are terrorists and will go to hell, but that will not become a fact just because I say it.
Please...LEARN TO RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS, people!
No religion is the absolute truth, mainly beacuse first and foremost, faith is subjective. There is no such thing as "X religion is true and Y is false"
😆 😆 😆
And twinkie, how is that a "fact"? Just beacuse some religiously bigoted crackpot said it, it dosent become a "fact". I might also say that all muslims are terrorists and will go to hell, but that will not become a fact just because I say it.
Please...LEARN TO RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS, people!
spiritual_twinkie (28 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-10)
I don't agree with you Brianna. In fact Christians still have confusions who is there real god. Bcauz before Jesus was dying he told that his god is Allah. And allah is the creator of every thing. Except muslims other relegions people will go to HELL! It is true, May be you will not believe it but after death you have to. I am not saying christians are bad bcauz Jesus is one of allah's frnd and our prophet. I like christians as they are kind hearted. But fact is fact. 😐
Brianna_Patrica (22 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-09)
Do you see? This is God at work! God loves us and will forever save us, as long as we stay Christain!
-Brianna ❤
-Brianna ❤
Jitow (362 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-09)
When Jesus died on the cross for our sins and God raised Him to life on the 3rd day, Satan was eternally defeated. Because of the free will that God gave us to believe this or not, there is still a battle going on for each and every soul alive to make the choice. When you sang Jesus Loves Me it had to leave, when you all praid later, one or all of you praid in Jesus name. Jesus is the Son of Jehovah God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, Creator of all things and He does not like to be mistaken for anything else. It is what Jesus did for you and I that sets the captives free and why evil trembles at the mere mention of His name, the name above all names.
Erebus (18 posts)
14 years ago (2010-06-09)
First of all let me say that I'm happy for you to have gotten freed from that "thing" with the help of God. I do believe that God is God and unique, whatever religion you are follower or not.
I experienced once the same of you and still I have goose bumps along my skin. I was at my oldest friend's with her mum too, and all of us suddenly felt this outwordly negative presence. We looked outside the window and saw those red-fire eyes. Thanks God it has been the first and last time I saw it. I met demons, a lot of them, through all my life but none of them scared the hell out of me like that one. I started to say that there's something darker than the the dark outside.
I made some research on line, and by chance I read a post in a friend's of mine blog talking about the same thing, and the person talking about didn't want to add anythong more than a "you ar lucky to be here, to tell this story".
Keep always close to the Light, with your son your hubby and all the ones you love.
Erebus 😊
I experienced once the same of you and still I have goose bumps along my skin. I was at my oldest friend's with her mum too, and all of us suddenly felt this outwordly negative presence. We looked outside the window and saw those red-fire eyes. Thanks God it has been the first and last time I saw it. I met demons, a lot of them, through all my life but none of them scared the hell out of me like that one. I started to say that there's something darker than the the dark outside.
I made some research on line, and by chance I read a post in a friend's of mine blog talking about the same thing, and the person talking about didn't want to add anythong more than a "you ar lucky to be here, to tell this story".
Keep always close to the Light, with your son your hubby and all the ones you love.
Erebus 😊
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