Comments for Mischeif Maker: Page 1

SmokeyKnight,

Did not mean for my comment's to sound...harsh... I had hoped I was replying 'tone for tone' to Dr.X's comment.

As you said, "I may be wrong, and I can admit the fact I could be. But until I am given evidence to disprove my theory, I stand with my beliefs."

In this we are very much of the same mind set. Be well 😁 and let's hope the O/P posts again and clears things up.

For the record... I 'bet' they watch Ghost Adventures and think Zac Bagins is the 'bomb'... The will also follow that 'ghost hunting style'.

Respectfully,

Rook

Smokey - you are right. I would not let my child go first. But until this o/p returns and gives us some answers, we can continue hypothesizing about this. Could be he was actually behind his mom instead of in front and just presented it that way. Then again, maybe he was faster than she was. Lots of different scenarios. But I'm not going to argue this with you, okay? We've been there, done that.

You have made a very valid point, but neither of us know the parents in this situation. You know what you would do under the circumstances presented and I know what I would do. Unfortunately, we don't know what actually happened.

Miracles, would you let your child go first if there was a possibility of danger? I highly doubt any parent would allow their child to take point in a situation like that. I won't let my girlfriend take the lead in a time of potential danger, no way I'd let my kid charge in before me. That doesn't matter whether it's mom or dad, that's being a parent. Am I right?

This is in no way meant to start another argument. I don't intend to banter back and forth, okay? I just want to offer my opinion, and that's all it is, on something the o/p said. He and his mom went into his room while his dad waited in the driveway.

I'm not even going to try and second guess why the dad stayed outside. I don't know the man, so I won't presume to know what was going through his mind at that time. But what I do know about is being a mom. If one of my children was determined (and he did say boldly) to go into that house, I'm going right along with my child. Most moms, not all mind you, but most moms get all "defensive" at the thought of their "baby" potentially being in harm. We'd fight the biggest, toughest, meanest man when it comes to our children. And moms can be just as effective as dads when the stakes are that high. I have one of those moms. Doesn't mean my dad couldn't take care of things. It just means when one of us was in any kind of danger, you could see the change take place in our mom. I'm the same way and I'd wager the majority of the women on this site are the same. No one messes with our kids.

Given that they weren't 100% sure this wasn't a living being in their home, oh yeah. I'd say his mom was prepared to take care of him. Once again, this is only my opinion.

[at] SK I have to agree with rooks preconditioning, as far as the A-typical response over ride, either that or the O/p is the few and far between "B-type" reaction where the unknowen stimulated excitement instead of flight, aside from the,..."excessive" politness between you two, both points are eloquently (sp?) displayed and I for one see no reason to continue trying to, press the position, on too the story. Lame mans terms, that's a trip. Perchance it messed with your father simply out of 'hey this isn't your room, don't test me'...

Sorry for the second post so soon...

I never suggested you scared anyone off, only that the way I saw you delivered your thoughts was (again) a bit dismissive of a simple thought in why this story seemed unlikely would cause some people to be less inclined to say they disagree with a story. I've been around here long enough and I'm thick skinned enough to say what's on my mind, and that's what I'm told brought me the most respect on this site. If I misunderstood your intent, I apologize.

Rook, in the way you said "Before dismissing the experience outright ask questions that either help confirm your suspicions or lay them to rest based on the O/P's answers" came across as a bit dismissive based on X's short comment about finding the story hard to believe. "Remember we (you) were not present when these things happened, and as they did not happen to us (you) there is no way to Judge our (your) reaction" again seems a little dismissive, given human nature is pretty tell-tale. I don't know for sure what anyone would do in any situation, but I know what the average person would do in a given situation. If you put a normal person in an abnormal situation, humans don't usually come out on top. Rushing headlong into a volatile situation or not waiting for the details of a situation could be the difference between someone getting hurt or worse. Again, I take the simple stance of agreeing with X. I may be wrong, but based on everything I have read to this point lends little credit to the story itself. It's just my opinion, and I am merely stating my views are very similar to X's at the moment. Most people think their father is the toughest guy ever, even if deep down we know better.

I'm not saying I find the story impossible, only implausible. We've all had our brush with the paranormal, that's why we're here. So when I read a story that sounds feasible until the very end, I have to look at why the shadow of doubt was cast. Something as simple as deciding to charge the fort with mom at your six doesn't sound right. In my life experiences, it doesn't add up. I may be wrong, and I can admit the fact I could be. But until I am given evidence to disprove my theory, I stand with my beliefs.

Have you ever seen the Documentary A Haunting in Conneticut?, not the Movie lol, the Documentation.

If you haven't maybe you should watch it, first of all it seems like you have someone in your House that has set up Shop.

You said 7 people are living there and you live were the Most Activity Happens and neither do you Fell Fear or believe your in Danger wenn you enter or sleep in that room?.

In the Documentary A Haunting In Conneticut, a Spirit set apart 2 brothers so that only 1 of the Brothers stayd in the Concentrated "room", what happened then was that the spirit started to undermind him, while he slept or awake, and the kid started to "Become" for the lack of words or gained some "behaviors" that were similar to the Spirit, what he hates, loves, thinks, writes, eats, wishes, ect...ect...

Wenn the son was put in the Mental Hospital the Spirit then went after the other Family Members, so you have to understand that you might believe your not in danger, but it sure looks like the Spirit really doesn't have a Problem scaring, trapping anyone else but you.

Now if you want to get rid of it, clean the house, I would tell you to get all your family together, ask your father to tell the story again. Tell him to Get a Bibel and Read anything is psalms were, God gave his enemys to David.

Personaly I would try and get all 7 in this Fight, I believe the More the Powerfuller, you all stand infront of the entrance of the house, then say we all enter in the name of Jesus Christ. Then your father will read the psalms while walking in all rooms, while the rest pray for help, support and strenght from Jesus Christ, doesn't have to be big prayers, just according to there believe. Then the End Room will be were the most concentration is. Now here if not befor might get...ruff...tough...shacky...loud...this if didn't happen befor is were your father needs to know "Its almost over"...with all his strenght and everything in his lungs and strenght should Read the Psalms, and Command the Demon to Depart from his home in the Name of Jesus Christ, he might have to command him more then once, more intense, more anger with more faith and more with a commanding voice.

Tell him that he should do that, and if he doesn't know if the Spirit left or not, to wait, wait until anything unusual happens again and then do it again.

Please do not 'vote down' Smokey Knights comment... It is well worded, non-offensive and wonderfully thought out.

I do see however where I need to edit my reply...

One of my 'points' currently reads (quote follows)

"As I do see where my post would have alienated anybody. My opening statment was (and I'll quote myself) " and it should read thus "As I do 'not' see where my..." I somehow left out the word 'not' sorry for that.

That seems to be the only 'hiccup' in my comment. Any and all opinions are always welcome here at YGS.

Respectfully,

Rook

SmokeyKnight,

Let me quote you so there is no misunderstanding...

"In any case, I think you (Rook) jumped the gun a bit since X stated they found it hard to believe, not impossible."

"Sorry to jump into this before a response could be make by X if any, but it's this kind of thing that alienates people from their differing opinions."

I've gone back and read and re-read my post now a few times and I'm wondering just where you are coming from, As I do see where my post would have alienated anybody. My opening statment was (and I'll quote myself)

"I understand what you are saying, but at the same time I find this story beliveable..."

Then later I go on to say...

"Being Skeptical is wonderful, I know I have a good dose of it even after all I've experienced, but please do not dismiss someone's experience just because 'that's not how I would have reacted'..."

Human nature is pretty basic and I agree that there are 'built in' reactions to certian types of 'stimuli' and yet the O/P had stated that 'things had been happening in this house for... Well I'll quote from the experience...

"I have been living in the same house for nine years now and weird things have been happening since my family moved into the home. We have a four bedroom two story house and there are seven of us living in it. I live upstairs in the attic which is by far the one room in the entire house that gets the most activity."

So we have a situation where an individual has been 'prepared' for the 'strangest things' to happen... Dad tells them they saw someone and that something strange happened in their bedroom and having been 'preconditioned' and quite possibly curious about the paranormal the O/P rushed up to their room to see what happened...

I do agree with you... If this had been the very first 'event' in the O/P's home... Yes they would more than likely held back, waited for more people and / or the police. But given the 'activity' in the home, most of it centered on the O/P's bedroom...

I fail to see where I may have 'scared' somebody away from posting their thought's or opinions. I stand by my statements...

Respectfully,

Rook

Rook, I respectfully have to disagree with you about DrX and the whole scenario. I don't see a reason why if a kid's dad said "hey, I saw someone up in your room" they would "boldly" charge in. It's not about what any individual would do, human nature is pretty much the same regardless of who it is. I might storm my room given my military training, but when I was say 16 before I enlisted (having done so 4 days after I turned 17) I would have held off until my step dad was with me. My mom is tough as hell, but I want the guy who worked construction for years backing me up, not just mom. And given that the O/P's father continued to see the figure, I'd call the police if nothing else. Let them come out, maybe something was missed.

In any case, I think you (Rook) jumped the gun a bit since X stated they found it hard to believe, not impossible.

Sorry to jump into this before a response could be make by X if any, but it's this kind of thing that alienates people from their differing opinions. Lucky for the forum, guys like me stick around even if their opinion is unpopular or stirs the pot.

cosmogal,

Not to worry. Thanks for the 'cover'.
😁

I do hope ShadowDancer returns, I would love to 'read' more about this encounter.

Respectfully,

Rook

ShadowDancer - just a random thought when reading your story for the third time 😆. Most of my other questions have already been asked. How old were you and what was your relationship with your dad like at this time?

thanks cosmogal - I thought it had something to do with the ghost. Its kool I just wanted an answer, since he used the term I thought he might be the fittest person to ask. I probably should have asked openly. I'm learning as I go along.

[at] guyinsane O/P is internet slang. It means Original Poster. I know this quesiton was directed at Rook, so I hope you don't mind. 😳 ❤

[at] rook - what is O/P? I'm just curious as to what the term means.

To me, if the young man were a living person, he would have been an intruder and a threat as he was in my child's room. Since this seems to be an intelligent haunt, he wanted to be seen, I could only assume this still holds true. What better way to scare a parent? Maybe he was posturing for head of the household, who knows?

If this happened to me I would research the home and see if I could find photo evidence of this person. Since I'm not privy to what else is going on in the house this seems like a logical step if you are looking for answers as to who is responsible for the activity.

Hang in there and thanks for sharing. Creepy story. ❤

Wow...this story made me laugh. (not in a mean way) Sounds like a poltergeist to me... Do you want him to leave? 😲

DrX,

I understand what you are saying, but at the same time I find this story beliveable... I think the O/P would naturaly rush to their room to see if any of their stuff was damaged or missing... What 'Dad' told them may not have fully set in and they heard something along the lines of...'I saw someone /something in your room... Heck the O/P may not have hung around to hear more than that before rushing upstairs. Before dismissing the experience outright ask questions that either help confirm your suspicions or lay them to rest based on the O/P's answers.

Remember we (you) were not present when these things happened, and as they did not happen to us (you) there is no way to Judge our (your) reaction. Being Skeptical is wonderful, I know I have a good dose of it even after all I've experienced, but please do not dismiss someone's experience just because 'that's not how I would have reacted'...

Bacchaegrl and a couple of others asked great questions that, if answered by the O/P will help explain just what happened more completely and fill in any background there may be to this experience, which will better enable the readers (us) to better understand just what may be happening to this Family... And provide clues to if it's really paramormal or not...

ShadowDancer,

I do hope you post again, I for one would enjoy reading more details about what is happening in your home and to your Family. Thank You.

Respectfully,

Rook

Has anything else happened - as in, anything directed towards you and not your father? If not, it could be that this older male feels threatened that another man is in 'his' house... Just a thought:)

Well said rookdygin and zzgranny, ghostsdigme how can you read this story like everybody else then make an assumption saying "he wants you all out I know" so are you speaking on behalf of this spirit, then to guess his name (clap clap)

Id love post a ghost story but iv never experienced one and I'm not going to lie on here pretending I have... Simple lol

My dad is a really tough guy, so if he is waiting outdoors there is no way I am rushing boldly back to that room. I find this story hard to believe.Sorry.

Great story here ShadowDancer, it sounds scary! 😨 I have had similar things happen to me. I mean, that things go missing and turn up in odd places, or even the exact places where we have already looked. I'm sorry, I just have to say that one of the Spirits here had just mucked around with my computer, I don't think they liked/like me putting a comment on this story. My computer screen had just randomly turned white.
Anyway, tell this Spirit to leave in a strong voice.
Love & Light, Rachel ❤

ghostsdigme: I never said I believe you 😊...But think about it: you got your information from a comic book character... A cartoon book... If you would like to contribute useful or helpful information in the future, I suggest reading and studying books that aren't so, um, comical... No one will take you seriously if you continue with your advice that there is a comic book boogy-man after them...

[at] zzsgranny The latter one is the Loki I refer to. Thank you for believing me. ❤

ghostsdigme: I'm very interested in where you got your information on "Loki"...Is the one you're continuously refering to the one in Norse mythology who is bound to bolders with his son's entrails until the event of "Ragnarok", or the one from Marvel Comics?...

I think that's creepy. I haven't had much experience with ghost, exept for when I feal that I'm being watch but that must of been really scary to your dad.

ShadowDancer,

Pay no mind to folks like ghostsdigme and paranormalexpert666 they are a dime a dozen and if asked either never seem to have an answer or if they have an answer they can not back it up with any references that support their 'claims'. As far as being experts or if ghost really dig them...Let's ask them this... Paranormalexpert666 and ghostdigme... Just how old are you folks... And for that matter just what are your qualifications / experiences that allow you to 'know' these things?

It sounds as if this spirit has a 'beef' with authority figures (Father...Head of House Hold) or perhaps in life he had issues with a Father like Figure involved in his life. Your room ended up trashed because it was your Dad's intent to find 'him' and chase him out of the house and that angered him...

Speaking of the House... Do you know it's history? This may provide some answers as to just what may be in your home / room.

EVP's would be a good place to start, if there is enough 'energy' in and about your room for this spirit to manifest itself so strongly to your Dad then it should find it easy to communicate via a digital voice recorder... Now there is a chance this may be a non-human entity, but with out more information there really is no way to tell that at this time. Please update us, provide more information so that real help can be offered and provided.

Respectfully,

Rook

I found this really very captivating - a wonderful read! I can see the humour in it for the ghost, but it would have been terribly frightening for your dad. Have you tried researching previous tennants/owners and the history of the house and land? Has the ghost ever hurt you or shown himself to you? Have you ever tried communicating with it?

So many questions! I hope you update in the comments, or with another story. I'd love to hear more.😊

Wow, that's some scary experiance your Dad had! The scariest/most 'paranormal' places in a house are attics and basements, but I'm not sure why. That 'man' seems REALLY evil, and you should get rid of him if you don't want any harm. If he's able to destroy your room, he could hurt you or your family. Cleanse your house, and tell it to go away, but NEVER use an Ouija board, as ghostslaya said.

Kenzie x

Hi Shadowdancer,

My name is Ed -- I'm a writer working on a prospective new TV series called "Don't Turn Out The Light" (site: www.dtotl.com). This is a paranormal series, recreating real tales of peoples' encounters with the paranormal.

Currently we're compiling episodes for the series, with the aim of representing the most fascinating stories around the world -- it's for that reason that I came across your fascinating, chilling story.

I was wondering if you'd be interested in allowing, at least in part, those accounts recreated?

At this early stage, this would involve initiating contact only. Depending on your preference, it would mean me contacting you to further discuss what the show is about and how it would relate to your contribution.

I understand, given the unsettling nature of the subject matter, if recanting it may not be preferable - so please understand, the series will be in good taste, take the subject seriously, and will protect your personal details as you'd require.

Thanks again for your time - please email me at "edjory [at] gmail.com" if you're interested (PS - the "at" symbol may not appear in these posts).

Regards,

Ed

Dear Shadowdancer

I would be thinking of moving out of that house. This ghost is a malevolent one and if it is attacking the general man of the house then he is dangerous. He is a trickster entity which is also a bad thing because one of his pranks may go to far. You might need to contact a medium or someone having the general knoledge of properlly dispelling the evil enitity.

I wish you luck!

Hello ShadowDancer,

I think you are very brave to keep on sleeping in that room after all of which has happened to your dad! I too have my room in the attic and sometimes when everyone is downstairs we can hear footstpes wandring around up there. If I were you I would tell the guy to not be so scary. Does he give off an unfriendly feeling by the way?

Keep us posted,
Greetings:
Peter

hi shawdowdancer this ghost is no ghost it is a poltergiest which is mischevious monster and will stay if you are scared of it or make it happy or amused. Please don't be scared of it it will go stronger type on the internet poltergiest and find out some more. Good story though 😨

I'm sorry but this story makes me smile. What a pompous ghost that was. I hate cockiness in all it's forms. I would have flipped that guy off. Your dad must have been so spooked! I like this story because I like to hear the emotional interaction that ghosts have with us. This was a true cause and effect. The ghost scared your dad and it amused him. Proof that ghosts are aware of us and that they interact with us when they see fit.

What kind of man is your dad? I know you said he is no chicken, but is he sensitive? Has he ever had experiences like this before? Was this an isolated incident in your house or have their been others. Have you seen anything? You mentioned other weird activity. What kind of weird activity? The ghost sounds like a jerk, though; wonder what his beef is?

wow man this sounds creepy
It seems this spirit has something against your dad for him to give your dad a disgusted look and to lock him in your room

Good story kiddo. Sound like this entity is having a bit of craic. Might actually be fun to have it in the house. I'd say it's no fun cleaning up after the bugger though.

Cheers

John 😁 😁

Hi shadowdancer, I hope I do not offend you but this story made me chuckle to myself as the spirit does seem to have a warped sense of humour and I thought if I was a ghost I would probably get a kick out of doing something like that! Looking forward to more of your experiences. 😆

I wouldn't even bother getting rid of it unless it does some kind of actual harm. If it's not a ghost then it's unusual that it took the form of a human. What other experiences have you had with this being?

hi ShadowDancer great story.
Sounds like this guy likes to play around with you all, I do feel sorry for your dad that must have been horrible.
Now a friend of mine had a playful spirit like this and when ever someting got moved or went missing she would stand in the middle of the room and say out loud "oh yes very funny now would you please put it back" then leave the room. 95% of the time when she returned the item would have returned so she would thank him.

Most spirits like the one you have are looking for people to show they know their there.
Thanks for sharing
Carl

I love ending the day reading stories on ygs, takes your mind off daily stress and you stumble across stories like this. Great story your dad musta been caking himself lol
Take care

well what I think is that if you want to figure out who he s and why he is there I would check the history of the house and see if anything unusual happened... But try to contact it with a voice recorder. But what ever you do NEVER NEVER use a ouija board... It ill open a door way so demons from hell will come to your home... But get back to me after you find that out.