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Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Here's the real deal about all of this. No expenses involved for this little lesson either. It is 100% free of charge. No haste, no waste.
You are breaking the #1 rule that we all abide by. We don't talk about it, it isn't listed in the guidelines, and for as long as I have been visiting this site, it hasn't come up as a talking point. EVER!
And here you are, blathering on and on about some conspiracy and how you can prove this and that about 'you know who' who does 'you know what'.
You just don't get it pal, those of us who frequent this site have a reason for keeping those things away from what we do here. It's hard enough for many of us to come here and talk about the things we do without being uncomfortable. We take what we do seriously. This isn't a game to us. And letting you bring this crap in would open the door to all kinds of craziness that we don't need.
We have our own little niche for our own kind of crazy in this world and we don't need the sort of help you would bring with you. We don't do the politics of conspiracy here, EVER! So do us all a favor and go hang out with your own crazies, alright? No offense, but you make us look bad.

Jav
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3329 posts) mod
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
Http://www.nymasons.org/cms/docs/FamilyBrochure.pdf
Http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Secret-Societies/The-Freemasons.html

Freemasons are not Satanists... They don't murder and sacrifice women and children... If you can provide "proof" of Masons involved in a Satanic sacrificial rite, such as real video, I'll THINK about believing you...Otherwise, uh uh 😐
Spockie (8 stories) (203 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
No, I have to disagree with your story. Not every spirit that appears in a funeral home or a house or anywhere else was conjured up by a ceremony. There are spirits that walk the earth, that are just a part of the natural condition of this planet... Non human entities. There also occasionally are human spirits that stick around sometimes because they are trapped, sometimes because they choose to.
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
MizMiMi20 - no worries 😁 Everything you posted I have no problem with lol! I promise my frustration does not lay with you. No worries.

~LSD~
MizMiMi02 (guest)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Ok, well pardon my opinion then. I was merely pointing out what I saw others making mention of.
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Alright, never once did I say this poster didn't write both stories. My issue is the fact that the poster said that ONLY because of ceremonies done my free masons is any place haunted. That is all. I'm sure the place does in fat exist & I'm sure the free masons dd these disgusting things. What I am saying is the fantastical way the poster puts the information together & offers the suggestion that the way hantings happen s because of ceremonies done by free masons only is Ridiculous at best. And the terminology used in reference to mortuaries pissed me off. Because its crap. What it seems like to me is tat this poster did a little research on a place & then made things up as he went along. It my personal opinion & that of others that this story is not legit. I know well about Free Masons & things of that nature. I hope you all do. It's very real. But I also know about conspiracy theorists do exist as well & in reading posts from this di4it on the other site leads me to believe that this person is a conspiracy theorist & is deciding to put his own twist on things & try to frighten any one who is buying.

Anyway, the BLANKY has been tossed for the simple fact that this person is clearly delusional OR just looking to put fear in people. If y'all would read his other posts maybe what I am saying would make a little sense. I'm not trying to be rude, just real. Thanx ^__^

~LSD~
MizMiMi02 (guest)
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
And if I could spell 'wasn't' properly, my point would be more valid. Lol
MizMiMi02 (guest)
+4
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Sonri- Ummm Say what? I wans't aware that any of us broke out the pitchforks, just commented on what we read and how we read it. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, is within the rules of this site. So, what exactly are you getting at in regards to the obvious bashing and beheading you claim we all have done?
sonri (2 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
dign4it. Definitely found it here. They certainly filled up your comments and I'm sorry they'd behave in such a way.
It was your story, you told it more than once and didn't waver from the facts.
I really can't say much until I say again that I'm sorry for how you've been treated here.
Generally, you believe these spirits to be immortal nonhuman entities. Personally, the older someone or thing is the more respect I'm inclined to show. Its humbling, and I'm always surprised, and for lack of a better word, flattered that they'd have anything to do with me. You might try being a bit less curt the next time. As they say, "you catch more bees with honey". Just a suggestion.
Good luck residing on dark ground, you'd never catch me in such a place. Blood is sacred and should be treated like it.
MizMiMi02 (guest)
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Jav- No worries, just realized that I didn't point out what I was trying to say, very clearly. We all have times where our brains don't transmit the info as we mean it, and instead how IT wants it to be said. No reason to apologize. 😁
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
[at] MizMiMi02,
I was merely attempting to set the record straight. Apologies if I came off as harsh, I oftentimes do. Not an excuse, just the plain truth of it.

Sorry,
Jav ❤
MizMiMi02 (guest)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Jav- I wasn't saying you originally posted it, just that it was posted by you. Often times people don't see the "previous comments" link at the bottom, and I wanted to reference something they could see. Bad idea on my part.
In regards to it being the same author, Rook had mentioned plagarism and I was simply pointing out that it was the same author for both stories. That's it.
Now, I never really questioned the validity of this story, as many statements mentioned were clearly thought upon in a tactical way before submitting the story. I believe that certain things happen in funeral homes, but to generalize all funeral home directors, coroners, morticians etc, is just in bad taste.
Anywho, just clearing up my thought process.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Okay guys,
The link I reposted was one that princesslotus found last night. When it comes down to it, we were already going to toss the BS Blankie on this story because of content alone. Statements that are clearly out of the realm of reality are what was in question. For example, this quote:

"In the case of haunted funeral homes, there were ceremonies held in the bleed-out rooms with the corpses of those who passed away. This is why the bleed-out room, IN EVERY OLD FUNERAL HOME, will contain a high number of spirits (but these spirits are free to roam the entire building) "

Now, my uncle was a mortician and county coroner of El Dorado County, Calif... That statement is insulting to all in the profession. And it implies that anyone living in an old funeral home, who 'believes' it to be haunted, has the very people we entrust with our loved ones who have passed, at fault. That they, in some diabolic scenario that I can't even conceive my uncle even thinking about, much less doing, have purposely kept our dear departed from reaching their final reward.
It's like something straight out of the movies. In fact it's just like the movie "A Haunting in Connecticut".

Jav
MizMiMi02 (guest)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
BTW, the link I was referring to was the one posted by Jav. It's the same author.
MizMiMi02 (guest)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Ok, I'm not getting it. He is the writer of both stories, from this one and the link provided. I'm not saying it is/isn't BS, but unless this person created an account here under the same name as the author from the link, is it not the same person?
adsouza (guest)
+2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Everyone has mentioned masons, candlemakers, knights, etc.
Don't forget the ninjas, samurai, dragon riders... WTF - Batman himself!
Miracles51031 (39 stories) (5000 posts) mod
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Just to further stir up the hornet's nest here, I'm going to go out on a limb and play devil's advocate. The link shows that dign4it is the author of the story.

I googled dign4it and have found many different sites where dign4it has made comments. My point? How do I know this isn't the same author?

Carry on 😉
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Miracles,
This account... Well, nevermind. If you haven't read the previous comments or checked the link Lotus left, you should.

Jav

Very decent copy/paste job done here.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Apparently you didn't see the link that was posted below by another member, a member who worked in a mortuary for over 4 years. Just in case you get antsy, you may want to check it out.

Http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2129/483/Harlan,_Iowas_Haunted_Funeral_Home.html

Yeah, we see where you got your info. We are not impressed with you at all.

Jav
Miracles51031 (39 stories) (5000 posts) mod
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
dign4it - thank you for responding to the comments. I was wondering if you would or if this would be another one of "those" stories.

When I first read your story, I admit I was intrigued by many factors, some of which have been scrutinized and questioned by other members.

I will also admit that I have a different opinion on hauntings and spirits than you do, but that is what makes us individual and unique.
dign4it (1 stories) (1 posts)
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13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I want to thank all of you for your replies. While this haunting is certainly true, it was also used to to prove some things that I thought were going on, now I know for a fact.
The haunting of newer homes and structures is easy to explain, these spirits "piggy-back" on people who come into your home or business, no matter how old the building is. Certain people have these spirits with them 24-7, and when these people come into your home or business, one or two of these spirits can, and will, stay behind in your house. These spirits do not die and they have been roaming this Earth for quite some time.
It is true that houses built and occupied by Masons (32nd and 33rd Degree) are haunted due to Satanic ceremonies, I can and will prove this point all day long, to people who are "receptive" to these spirits. This funeral home in Harlan is connected to the Masonic Lodge right across the street (Durant Street) via tunnel, and this, too, can be proven. These houses and other structures that were built by Masons will have certain Masonic symbols incorporated into the architectural design on the front or, street side of the building, and this is how you can tell which houses, structures, are most likely haunted (I say "most likely" because these spritis can be made to leave). Everything I say can be proven... ALL DAY LONG!
For those who say that there wasn't a bleed-out room, I'm just telling you what I was told each room (each apartment) was used for. My room, I believe, was the creamation room. It was in this "bleed-out" room where the Masons, after using the tunnel to secretly get to this funeral home, would have their ceremonies with the corpses, involving many things (necrophilia).
I am anxious to hear from anyone who has the ability to come to Harlan and film or write about these facts. You will not be disappointed. I will line up all the people in this factual story and I WILL prove the Masonic connection to hauntings, so anyone, and I mean anyone, who doubts this story, or is interested in filming this story, feel free to come to Harlan. Write me at my Yahoo address if you are interested.
There will be no cost to you other than your own expenses. If you want a great "ghost story," here's your chance!
little-demon (5 posts)
-2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
this is one great story. I read this about ten times in a row. I think I saw that place once before.
ind_83 (55 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Rook,
I read the link which princesslotus gave. Did this means that the O/P just copied his story from that piece of article? Well Thank you for the eye opening. I think that this person has nothing better to do that is why he is doing all these "FALTU" (S**T) things. 😠
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
ind_83,

If you follow the link provided by princessLotus here in the comments you will see where the O/P took his 'story' from. He changed it up just enough so that it's not plagerized... (sp?)

So please do not worry about 'not getting it'.

Respectfully,

Rook
ind_83 (55 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I read your story few times, I read each and every line of your story again and again, but I didn't get it, means I am unable to understand it, especially the last paragraph, I am really confused. 😕 Please show me some light here.
Take Care.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Thank you both... Thank you...

LDS,

I'm just trying to restore your Faith... 😉

Respectfully,

Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Holy Crapoly Rook!
I'm laughing so hard I can barely type! 😆 😆 😆

Jav
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
BRILLIANT! *hats off* 😨 that is the most frightening this I ever did read!

No... I'm crying... Laughing... Too hard... Must...p

~LSD~
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
A doubledecker Multicolored bus pulls up on the scene, bucaneers hooting and howling out their song as the driver brings the bus to a Screeching Halt...

Shiver My Timbers, shiver My Soul
Yo Ho He Ho
There are men whos hearts as black as coal

And they sailed there ship across the ocean blue
A Blood thirsty captain and a cut throat crew.
Its a darker tale as was ever told
Of a lust for treasure and a love of gold...

Shiver My Timbers, Shiver my sides
Yo ho he ho
There are hungers as strong as the winds and tides
Yo ho he ho

And those bucaneers drowned there sins in rum,
The devil himself would have to call em scum!
Every man on board would have killed his mate for a bag of
Ginnys or a piece of eight, a piece of eight, a piece of eight
5 6 7 8

HULA WOKA HULA WOKA SOMETHING NOT RIGHT
MANY WICKY ICKY THINGS GONNA HAPPEN TONIGHT
HULA WOKA HULA WOKA SAILOR MAN BEWARE

When the money in the ground there's murder in the air,
Murder in the air.

ONE MORE TIME NOW

Shiver my timbers, Shiver my bones
Yo ho he ho
There are secrets that sleep with old davey jones
Yo ho he ho

When the main sails set and the course is weighd
Theres no turning back from any course that's laid

And when greed and felony sail the sea,
You can bet your boots there'll be treachery HA HA HA

Shiver my timber, Shiver my sail
Dead men tell no tails!

The door to the bus opens and the driver, complete with Captians hat and gold earing, calls out..."The Miss Demeanor is lookin fer a few good Pirates to Loot and Plunder. Thar be pleanty O' drink and good times for all! So all aboard the Miss Demeanor let's seek out and destroy any Blankie Stories we can find!

Puff Bayram
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
LMMFAO! To Rook. Dude that caught me off guard. Major knee slapper, side grabber! Not my idea of three men in a tub... But... Hey LOL! By Aslan, I think we are getting somewhere!

~LSD~
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
The list goes on! Reptilians & Annunaki & & oh wait what are we talking about? There's the Rockefellers & Rothschilds &&! Oh I'm getting dizzy. Can anyone else think of any? Because we must call them out & banish them & all their ancestors that haunt places (EVERY PLACE EVIDENTLY) so our world can be free of hauntings. See they are hogging all the haunting time & we really want to get in touch with caveman spirits... So yes! Help us out! EVERYONE, HURRY DOWN TO YOUR LOCAL BLEEDING ROOMS!

~LSD~
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Aaargh! Pirates is what we be missing here! When you hear the sound of one footstep and a clonk, that be ole Long John Silver hisself mateys!

Jav 😆 😆 😆
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Ummm Butchers, Bakers and Candlestick Makers?

Just a guess. 😉

Respectfully,

Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Now, we have the Templars, the Masons, the Illuminatti, and the Bankers. Who are we forgetting here? 😉

Jav 😕
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Oh, bring on the Cro Magdon Men spirits! So they can beat the crap out of the Free Mason spirits! LOLZ!

And yes. The Fema stuff is scary. All of what we are talking about is. It scares me more that all this spiritual warfare, because at least I know where I stand when that poo-poo hits the fan. But as far as our government? S-C-A-R-Y-! & I believe there is evil behind it. But to claim that free masons doing the hokey pokey is the root of spiritual activity is absurd. Really. We just really need to do something about those S.O.B.'s! *pukes*

~LSD~
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I saw those liners a while back... As I said many times before, it's what people don't know that's dangerous. 😲

Lady, I haven't seen a BS story get busted this hard in a long, long time!

Jav
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Well we can't forget about the other evil going on with the Templars & the Bankers... & yes I believe the trailer would be haunted considering these are the ones running the factories that make them & the snazzy "casket liners" to match... -.-

~LSD~
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
The Masons and the Illuminati...
So they're the cause of all these hauntings? 😲
Were they around in the caveman days too? I mean, has anyone ever reported seeing the spirit of a cave dude?
Now that might make me raise an eyebrow!

Jav 🤔
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
PrincessLotus is the Queen tonite! All hail the Queen!
Maybe you could get one of those FEMA trailers too. Wonder if their haunted? 😆 😆 😆

Jav
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
You know what's funny? I was in the weird part of YOUTUBE again watching crap about the Illuminati & all kinds of crap. So what I read in the link I shared just freaked me out. The Free Masons & GAH! It just creeps me out. But Shellzy brings up such a good point about "NEW" places being haunted. There must have been ceremonies on the land before anything was built. Masons from the dawn of time have just screwed it up for all of us! CRAPOLA! There goes my plans to build my dream home this summer, right across the street from a FEMA CAMP! I should have known! BLASTED! XD

~LSD~
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Yeah shellzy, it looks like a copy/paste job from that link, with a little bit of BS of their own added for flavor. I mean, they took it word for word!

Here's to PrincessLotus for catching this fool red handed! 😆

Jav
shellzy (8 stories) (218 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I just read the link too... Phew lucky you all tossed that blankie of that steaming pile of bs cause it was really starting to stink! 😆
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I just checked out little sister Lotus' link too. And yes, WTFery does abound! Where does this garbage get started? I can't believe the crap that gets put up in place of the truth. It is truly astounding!

Jav
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
shellzy,

Please follow the link provided by princeslotus... As you read the artical it explains that these ceremonies were preformed by the Masons... The WTFery abounds on this STORY.

Respectfully,

Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
That's it! The BS Blankie has officially been tossed onto this steaming pile of manure! Thanks for help with it Rook!

Jav
shellzy (8 stories) (218 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Hmm ok I was following your story up until your theories on hauntings... Just a question regarding this statement

'The same goes for haunted houses. For the most part, there were ceremonies held in these houses, in the past, that conjured-up these spirits. The home owner died, but the spirits stayed, and that is what you are seeing in your home, your workplace, the cemetery (yes, ceremonies were also held here), and any other place that is haunted.'

My question is, then how do you explain hauntings in newly built homes or houses that have definately not had any rituals or ceremonies performed in them? I have witnessed paranormal events in my old and current workplace and I'm positive no ceremonies have ever been performed in either workplace to conjure up sprits...

Sorry, I realise everyone is entitled to thier opinions but I have a strong feeling that many are going to disagree with this 'knowledge' you think you may have...
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Before I forget...

Wonderful link LSD... Can you help me with this GIANT OVERSIZED BS BLANKIE?!?!?!

Respectfully,

Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I've got my end of the BS Blankie... Whenever anyone else is ready, I'm here to throw it with you.

Jav
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+4
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
For the sake of argument I 'understood' the 'Bleed Out Room' to be the Embalming Room. I have no experience with Funeral Homes or Mortuaries but that was my first thought when I read that particular desription.

There is of course so many other 'questionalble' things reguarding this experience it does make one say WTF.

Respectfully,

Rook
princessLotus (2 stories) (555 posts)
+4
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Ehem. I'm... WTF!? What is a bleed out room? No don't answer that because you cant. They don't exist. I worked at a mortuary for almost 4 years. & this is insulting. Why would you post this rubbish here Oh & HERE:

Http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2129/483/Harlan,_Iowas_Haunted_Funeral_Home.html

Did you make this up to razz everyone? I am so disgusted with what YGS is passing as ghost accounts these days. I can't even begin to describe how this post makes me feel. I'm close to giving up on the human race... Well since I have nothing nice to say I will leave it at this> I CALL BULLSH1T!

~LSD~
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
I just can't leave without asking you where you got this little gem...

" This is why the bleed-out room, IN EVERY OLD FUNERAL HOME, will contain a high number of spirits (but these spirits are free to roam the entire building). The same goes for haunted houses. For the most part, there were ceremonies held in these houses, in the past, that conjured-up these spirits."

What in the world have you been up to that makes you spout this manure?

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+5
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Okay, I am not even down with this crap. My uncle was a mortician/county coroner in El Dorado County, California. I can attest to the fact that his place was not haunted. Funeral homes/parlors are the least likely place for spirits to be found.
But what bothers me the most is your theory about what spirits are and are not.

Jav
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
dign4it,

I was really enjoying your experience and then, towards the end, you made a couple of statments that have me wondering what you are talking about... They are (quoted so there is no misunderstanding):

"One thing you should understand though, is that spirits, for the most part, are not the souls of people who died... But in cases with a constant presence, there is something totally different going on."

Could you please share just what you think these spirits are?

"Most hauntings are the result of people having ceremonies which conjure-up these spirits."

What ceremonies do you refer to? I for one am very curious as to just what you may be refering to by saying this.

Respectfully,

Rook
aQua05 (guest)
+1
13 years ago (2012-05-17)
Luckily, haven't experience like that yet. But you are totally brave. Having a conversations with those "s.o.b" 😆. That was cool calling them "s.o.b" hahaha. 😆
mind_wide_open (1 stories) (14 posts)
 
13 years ago (2012-05-16)
Im not really getting that spirits are not humans that did not pass on. I think the exact opposite of you. Maybe one day we will know who is right. Good story though

Mind_wide_open 😁

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