Comments for Until Death Do Us Part? What Happened To That?: Page 1

Val you have been good to me and I want to thank you for that as well as Rita and MS. You rock!

Some of you folks in here are really very nice and respectful especially the older ones and I would like to thank you for your kind advice and suggestions. At my age, I am not looking for sympathy just good conversations with mature folks or people with lots of paranormal experiences that are not "snobby" to mostly interact with especially with my stories.

Excuse me, Angel? Have I done something to offend you? If you don't like my advise you are free to leave it. Or is this one of those misreadings I was talking about? Not meant as it seems?

Awww SDS, you can make a girl blush, even with just a simple hello 😊. If you and Ari are of a like mind, you might peruse Angel's other stories, and comments. I found it rather like a puzzle, and the pieces have an interesting fit, if you follow?

Val, my dear friend, you have given very good comment and advise to Angel. After initially commenting about a day ago, I do find some contradictions between the write-up and the comments. Still as you said, if whatever Angel said is correct, it is for her to take your advise.

A big hello to you Val.

With regards and respects.

SDS

This story is 100 per cent true BS... But at least Angel put her wings to a good use and has flown away from YGS. 😆 😆

Watson! *Hugs Ari* Long time no see old friend!
How the heck have you been? I've missed you!

Ahem...you rang!

Or is it "justme" 😉

(Hi guys & gals, long time no see Holmesy!)

notjust - are you accusing moi of being a *gasp!* thought stealer? (falls over giggling).

Wow...This post and these replies got out of hand fast...😆 😆

Angel9090 - Val took the thoughts that I was keeping to myself. I also don't think it is your fiancee, or at least just him you're experiencing due to some stuff you said and due to my own personal experience. Have you ever thought that could be a possibility?

Angel,
I for one am not so sure that what you are dealing with is your fiancee. I say this because of a few things you said both in your account and in the comments. Although the timing certainly suggests it was his ghostly return, certainly as a medium you know that often it is at this time, when we are so vulnerable, the not so nice entities take the opportunity to slip in masquerading, as it were, as the one we mourn. My belief is that on some level of our intellect, we WANT this to be our passed loved one, and allow ourselves to be 'conned'. Let's look at how you felt when seeing this transparent, glowing blue light being; total abject fear. You did not feel comfort, or peace, or love - the emotions that 'visiting' spirits usually bring.
Then, in comments, you mention him trying to 'possess' you. You do not need to answer me, but seriously was your fiancee that sort of control freak? I think not. Just because you are not physically harmed, does not equal a 'good' spirit.
It also sounds an alarm, that though you have repeatedly told this entity to go, it refuses to. Unless there is some message that needs to be addressed, kind spirits usually do. At least in my experience.
Now, in case you're wondering, I too see the discrepancies between the account you initially gave, and the portrayal you paint in the comments. This could be contributed to writing abilities, or your 'comfort zone' in sharing. It could be a lot of things. I'll say this, in a format such as this one, where we only have the print to go by, it is easy to read something completely different from the way it was intended. For example: taking a comment meant for clarifying as an attack, or as being rude. Naturally, when we think this we tend to push back, and feel hurt or get angry. That's human nature. I've found it best, just to step back and then re-read it before responding. Heck, I've been known to re-read EVERYTHING, including my original post before responding, simply because I know how it can be. Of course, sometimes folks will think I'm oblivious to insults at times, 😆 because I usually opt not to answer with a like spirit. I hope that helps some.

Miracles, my comment was just a summary of the dates of events and I tried to post it three times and it disappeared so that was very unusual. However, there could have been a glitch on my iPhone.

justnotme- *me whispering cause they are talking over there* that was great! Oops, shhh, enjoyed the vid, however I had my earpiece in and without knowing I was using my desk as a drum. Hehehe love me some James Brown! But we are trying to wind down for the weekend here so all is good.

THANKS FOR SHARING! Did I say that too loud?

Angel - unless you made a particularly rude, mean, or asinine comment directed at ms, there is no reason for your comment to have been deleted. So, either you made a deletion-worthy comment or you are mistaken because I didn't delete any comments either.

Would love to be able to say with a straight face, "I am a 32 year old East Indian male" but alas... 49 Caucasian female LOL.

...ohh well poo, there goes Goat,...another one bites the dust.
This link has nothing to do with scariness, but actually to brighten up everyone's day and to wrap up the week =) enjoy
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LOL elnoraemily - Yes tell your friend he's being hunted down... Hazel eyes? Must be beautiful! But i'm on to babygoatpuller... He might be east Indian 😁

notjustme- I believe this is what they call "couch conversations" We are sitting to the side watching, listening, trying to raise our hands from time to time then realizing it's best not too, and pretty much staying out of it. Sigh,...trying.

No east Indians here notjustme. I'm a German-Irish female, got a German dog and an Egyptian hubby but no east Indians.

Wait...I got a east Indian Buddha statue. Will that help? 😆

I have an Indian friend with hazel eyes.

Does that count?

30 something, does something fancy with computers to make planes fly...

:P

notjustme, you are cracking me up trying to find the Indians! I'm probably going to think about Indians the rest of the day now. 😆

SDS isn't jumping in here but I am pretty certain he is east Indian!...I'll find ja ohh yes I'll find ja!

Wish-Not I am ROTFLMFAO! There's always room for you on the couch!

Angel9090 - for what it's worth, I'm sorry for using your thread to find the Indians. I have kept out of the general topic because I don't have 2 cents. But all the best to everyone 😐

Wish-not - hahaha I appreciate the offer, but I want the YGS ones! *evil laughter echoing throughout YGS halls*

notjustme- There was a Eastern Indian couple in my office Monday to have something recorded..., will that work for you?

Does that help at all?

I didn't ask any questions because I don't have any questions. If I had and gotten one of your typical answers, I may have become "insulting".

I've "grasped" the story just fine. In and of itself was okay. It's your comments that are throwing everyone off. Hence, the "word salad". You've changed things up, added more stuff and tossed it altogether too...? You're very quick on the keyboard with non-answers.

Clear up the confusion, answer the questions and you might have a more to your liking outcome.

Deleted? Curious indeed. I haven't deleted any comments today, actually in about a week. I don't believe Miracles has deleted anything today, so...

Haha, Wish-not, there is always a spot for you on the couch!:D

well poo... Someone better be east indian up in here... Babygoat...? Heh heh? *winks* lol

Gosh, went to lunch for an hour and all h*ll broke loose. Geezzz, did I lose my spot on the couch?

For the record, 52, Male Caucasian. I enjoy walks in... Oh wait, wrong site. Hehe

Really? You called a mod "irrational" for asking you to address things that did not make sense to anyone.

You mocked how someone spoke and called it "slang", though no slang was even used.

You told people not to read your story if they were not going to agree or question it.

You told people they have no common sense because the addressed issues with the story- which, by the way, is one of the reasons for having a comment section: clarification.

Do you really want to play the victim game? I just re-read through everything and the only comments that were even slightly "insulting" were ones that replied to what you have previously said to them.

People asked you simple questions. Why are the stories different?

I'll ask one more time: why are the stories different?

MS seems like a logical one. I have been trying to reply to you MS but my comments were deleted.

LOL I don't know! I really don't...we must not tell my husband about this little east indian YGS fetish of mine... KAKAKAKAKA 😆 😆 😆

Angel9090, I will try to say this kindly, but it probably will sound harsh. You must tell him to leave. How can you move on with your life if you are being visited by a lover who is long dead? If he does not want to go into the light, that is his choice. I am so sorry that you did not have the future with him that you both had hoped for. Now it is time for you alone to go forward. I will keep you in my thoughts and wish you happiness.

Goat was saying that my story was not grasping her and in my view that is insulting when she could have had the courtesy to ask a question. I did not feel like I was insulting anyone and in fact I think it is the other way around.

Had to re-read my comment 3 times looking for the "slangs". (couldn't even find that one in the dictionary) And it's not me looking for approval dear. You wrote the story and if you don't like the comments you're getting, then don't write the stories. It is after all common sense!

-makes room on the sofa for elnora to sit with a victory trophy;

You have previously stated in other stories that you are 52. Are you serious that you cannot answer a few questions without insulting people at 52? You keep saying that you want questions and keep insulting those who ask them.
This story fits in somewhere between now and being 22 with a baby on the way in the Final Farewell story, I am guessing?

I am very lost as to why people asking why the comments stories and the story's account are different is causing this much drama from you. It's definitely settling me down on the sofa. They are obviously different and your refusal to admit that even when it's been quoted for you is baffling. Why is the story's account and the story being told in the comment section so much different?

It's definitely not irrational to see something off about a story and question it. It is, however, irrational to insult and tell people not to read your story rather than calmly respond.

Then don't expect people to automatically believe everything you say if you're not going to justify your claims. Same goes in US court.

Ok, I just wanted to ask a couple of questions to clarify things for me. I've read all of your stories and I'm just trying to fit everything together. Did your fiance die 10 years ago, as in 2004/2005, or did this happen many years ago, and the haunting happened for 10 years? Also, you mentioned that since his death, you had put yourself through school, had bought a house, and had done many things with your life. Is this when you went to business school and met your friend from your other story, Final Farwell? And is this during the time you had bought and sold the strange house you lived in for a short time? I may be overthinking all of this, so correct me if I have it all confused.

I'm sure during and after his passing was a very difficult time for you. I know it is hard to let go of the ones we love. I'm sure, like me, you are thankful for the good memories with these special people in our lives. But good for you for making positive choices for yourself (school, living on your own, travel...)

Who wants to believe my story fine and who does not want to believe it that is fine as well. I said many times and I will say it again I do not have to prove anything to anyone and the story is mine and I say it to the best of my knowledge and all questions that you would like to ask me about my story is welcome. I am not hereto prove myself to anyone or to belittle people unlike some on here.

If you're really going to comment on her slang, I am going to comment on your lack of punctuation marks. Act your age. Just because you're butt hurt because now less people believe your stories than original, doesn't mean you can be rude. We asked you questions and you choose not to answer them. Deal with it.

Goat I do not need your approval and you talk in slangs. If you do not like my story do not read it since it is simple common sense but you keep posting on my story.

"Story tellers" can be taken a couple of different ways. Not much of a lean for me on this one.

If have requested people to ask questions and no clarification of a story is not an issue with me and I never said that it was an issue because I encourage it as I did before. Asking questions can clear things up instead of making judgments without knowing so again I do agree with clarifying things instead of jumping to irrational conclusions or making mockery of story tellers.

BJJ - aw I feel the love ❤

Elnora - that and she said her social life has suffered but she's done well professionally in the comments. But then her life hasn't suffered. ALSO when she says she wants him to cross over but then says she doesn't want him around but he isn't bothering her but he might be trying to possess her and all that jazz.

Angel, BJJ is a mod. It's part of her job to make sure that these stories are true and that stories make sense to the reader.

The discrepancies I see are things like: "it worries me that he may still be around" in the story and just a few small things suddenly blowing into possession in the comments. What had happened in the story and what happened in the comments seem to be quite different. What also got me is that you say you have a great and social life, but before that he interferes with your social life. Can you see why there is a feeling of things being a bit disjointed?

Notjustme lol. Sorry, Caucasian female. 😆
If, I'm in good company then lol.
😊

I was going to keep my mouth shut but I don't understand why asking for clarification makes someone irrational 😕 When details don't add up, or a storyline changes midstream, people are going to try and figure out why. That's part of submitting a story on our site.

WHAT IS IT WITH YOU AND EAST INDIANS NOTJUSTME? LMFAO best thing I read all day. 😆 😆 😆

IFI - You were also a guy in my mind, annnnd also east indian LOL LMAO

BJJ, you just give off the sexy man appeal we all desperately crave... LOL OK I WILL STOP NOW. 😆 😆 😆 I think we all assume everyone is a guy except for feminine user names. Heck, I was even called a guy and my real name is on my profile. I doubt a guy would use an adam lambert song as their screen name. Then again you never know.
-sits on the couch with all the snacks;

I was staying out of this on purpose but after reading all the comments, I'm just going to say all of her comments are going into my word salad box.

Any more room on that couch? 😆

If you don't want to believe then that is your opinion. I do not have to prove anything to you. I do not expect everyone to approve my story so you can sit on your couch and have your snacks. I tell my story the way it is and if you do not like it that's no problem. You are an irrational person.

I can't figure out why so many people think I'm a guy. Geez, do I type manly or something? Lol

Many people, including myself first thought you were a male BJJ lol... I pictured an east indian man LOL don't ask me why 😆

I'm a she, for the record. And you've clarified nothing.
Wish, make some room on that couch. I've wasted more than enough time on this one.😆

I have already clarified his discrepancies in case you missed it. Read above his comments.

I agree with BJJ but Please I am trying my best to not to sound rude... Honestly

Regards,
😊

I want him to go for good because he has died and turned into a ghost and now he has another life in the spirit world. The life that I had with him will never be and our plans will never come through so I will be fine and yes he should go over into the light.

we all know what that sassy sigh means wish not, actions speak louder than words 😆 😆 😆

Think I am going to go set over here on that comfortable couch and stay out of this one from now on. Sigh,...

All I know is that they were Christian churchs and my friends told me that the preachers would be able to get rid of the vibrations in my hands.

Just answer me this: do you REALLY want him to go or just think he SHOULD go? There is a difference. Cause if it is him, he's not going to go until he knows you want him to, deep down inside. If that's the case and you really want him gone, not just cause you think he should be, then you should ignore him.

What denomination of Christian was that? I know many that deny any sort of spiritual involvement with living humans and possession.

I had the exorcisms done because after he died I was getting vibrations in my hands and I thought that he possessed me. They were Christian churches. My college buddy had her uncle do an exorcism on me and another friend spoke to her pastor who also did another one done. If you want to know something please ask.

v That's another reason why I am saying something isn't right here.

I would like to jump in here for a second and ask something. When you stated "When I had the exorcisms done on me at he churches..." What denomination was the church?

I ask that question because of my understanding of "exorcisms", that has to do ONLY with demonic beings. I could be wrong. Have been before and guarantee I will be again. But I am confused on that. I would appreciate if you cleared that up for me.

Thanks

He is not an abusive person but yes my social life has not been great and I thought it would have been nice to cross him over.

He will never ever do anything physical to hurt me and has always been protective over me. The who issue on the posts was crossing him over and a lot of people think that he should stay if he does not want to go.

People who love you shouldn't try to possess you. He sounds like he is controlling you form the other side and not letting you progress in your LOVE life. If he were still alive, this would be classified as an abusive relationship.

When I said that he does not bother me, I meant that he does not physically hurt me like choking or scratching me. The other things like touching and tapping on the door when someone is over is not physical abuse. He does those things because he is still emotionally tied to me.

You honestly can't see any contradicting details? You honestly think this all meshes together perfectly, and that no one should question it? Perhaps you should go back, and reread everything you've told us.

I don't know why you think I am contradicting myself. I am telling my story the way it is or should I send him knocking on your door if you think I am contradicting?

There's no reason to get upset. Obviously you still love him, which is natural and nothing is wrong with that, but there are contradictions. No one is speculating that what you're saying is not true, we offer suggestions and solutions. I know at least for me, every suggestion I have given you, on any story of yours, has been shot down. We simply don't know what to tell you other than good luck.

Then the solution is quite simple. Pick a story, stick with it, and don't contradict yourself. Problem solved.

It bothers me when my credibility is called into question on this because it is very emotional still. Since he died he has not been holding me back. I have put myself through college, bought a nice home and have been going to places. I have a great life compared to a lot of my peers and I do not dwell on him day and night. I just talk about it on here and let it all out. He was not a monster when he was alive and he is not a monster in death. We were very much in love when he died and it appears that he wants to stay. I just feel sorry for him and I want him to cross over and be happy and I don't care if you believe me or not since it is my story and not yours and I am the one that knows the truth so stop speculating.

In my book, possession attempts, unwanted physical contact, and preventing you from having a life of your own is harmful.

All that I have said is true and not contradictory. It is a fact that he does not hurt me but like I said I want him to be happy and cross over. What is so contradictory about that?

Contradictions bother me. Bother me quite a lot in fact. Your account of his supposed haunting, contradictory.
You've said he isn't bothering you, "He is not hurting me and he helps me a lot."
And yet, you later say "I wanted to cross him over without him being around to intervene in my social life in particular," and "He is doing more than visiting and in fact I even think that he has possessed me at times. It is hard to ignore him but I will try."
You've said a few other things that make it sound like he's bothering you as well, so why claim he isn't? I'm sorry to be so blunt, but you'd be a lot more believable if you'd pick a story and stick with it.

Then we understand each other and shouldn't have any problems from here on out. Just personal opinion here, but for someone who claims to be a private person, sharing intimate details seems a little not-so-private.

Even though we aren't face to face, to me it seems like something that could be so personal should only be shared with your closest friends or a forum specifically designed for those kind of experiences 😕 However, I realize this is your experience, not mine so I shall refrain from further comments.

I work at a law firm so I know when I am breaching something but like I said I will not touch on that. I have a tendency to state every fact which I will not do on your site. Anyway, I know its him because it only started happening since he passed away.

Until your explanations cross the line and broach a subject we no longer deal with on this site. I'm sure you know where to draw the line. If not, we'll delete the comments and you'll know the next time.

By all means I am only responding to some questions asked by stating some extras but if you feel that way I will not touch on that. I tell my story the way it is and I felt compelled to share those details so that others may understand the nature of his presence or haunting. Everyone tells me to brush it off but when those things happen and the audience does not understand then it is difficult to make them understand not knowing the complete truth. I thought that by simply stating some crucial facts they will understand the true nature of the situation. I know that everyone wants to hear about the haunting but all those things are a part of the haunting on a higher level.

Think of it in a "normal" stand point then angel. You can't help an addict that doesn't want to be helped, aka go to rehab. You can't help a homeless man if he doesn't want the help, aka tools to be successful and money. You can't help a ghost that doesn't want to be helped, aka go into the light. You've tried a lot of times and I believe happyspirit's comment is going in the correct direction. There's only not much else you can do. As far as him possessing you, have you given any thought whatsoever that this isn't even your fiance? Could it be a malificent spirit of some sort pretending to be him to get into your life? I know you said you're a medium but they have been known to be fooled as well.

Angel - in previous comments you have repeatedly hinted at romantic advances from your deceased fiance. This latest one is getting a little more obvious. So, before this turns into a sexual story, understand any and all comments related to that will be deleted. Our rules state no sexual/incubus/succubus stories, and we hold that to the comments section as well.

He is doing more than visiting and in fact I even think that he has possessed me at times. It is hard to ignore him but I will try. Since he passed away, I have trouble sleeping on my back because at times I feel like something is going. I feel touched when I am laying to sleep on my side, I feel kissed at times. So tell me how in the world can I ignore all these things? Isn't it my duty to tell him to go in the light and be happy? The truth of the matter is, if I ignore him, he will still continue to do all those things and when I talk to him, he would ease up. Also, I feel like he is playing with my hands when I ignore him and he wants me to communicate with him. When I had the exorcisms done on me at the churches, I felt kissed on my lips and I am not sure why the exorcisms did not work so I am questioning a lot of things and I have been disappointed in a lot of things as well. Don't you think that I want him to move on and be happy and not touch me day and night? I want to be free of all this and I want thing to be the way before I met him.

Hi Angel9090, when we write to this site, as Miracles and ifi said, there will always be people, who won't believe a particular write-up and be skeptical. So, I don't think there is any need for us to vouch that anything is 100% true and by saying it would definitely get up an antenna for some to view it differently.

Coming to your experiences, it is not uncommon for the departed to come back and visit their loved ones. Perhaps, he was quite fond of you. Still, you keep trying to tell him to go towards the light. I am sorry for your loss.

Regards and respects to you.

SDS

Angel, if I am understanding you correctly, you are giving your fiance a good bit of attention - at least for a ghost. For ten years you have talked to him, telling him to move on and go into the light, concerned about him, even writing about him here. I think that all this activity, as understandable and well meaning as it is, may actually be creating energy that feeds his need to stay connected and his deep attachment to you.

I'm open to feedback from the YGS gang on this, but here's my suggestion:

Bless him, tell him goodbye one last time, and then ignore him. Put your attention firmly on the physical world. Cut him off with love, knowing that he will be taken care of.

I am extremely thankful for all the insights that I have been getting from everyone and I truly appreciate them. Before I started getting these vibrations, I truly thought that once a person dies, there is a chance that they can be seen as a ghost and they probably move on to other spirit realms. I have been talking and coaching him for over ten years now to go into the light and each time I have been met with resistance. One time I dreamt his deceased mom and she told me that I should not have buried him with his wedding ring on. I will try more techniques in talking to him and see what transpires.

I find it slightly ironic that the title of this story pretty much sums up why he is probably still around. You were unmarried, which means you never got the until death oath done. He is keeping up his end of that, staying around with you, since he didn't get to do it.

I very sorry for your loss.

I'll echo was ifIhadyoux said yesterday, as well.

Hi Angel
Sorry for your loss...
One thing is clear in your story that your Fiancee is yet not ready to move in spite of your requests.
I would suggest you to try to communicate with him,. Try to know what he exactly is waiting for. There might be any unfulfilled wish. Just try to know what he says, give him an assurance that he need not worry about anything as all his loved ones are happy and safe. Just listen and reassure him that he no longer needs to worry about you and that he can cheerfully move on. I am sure he will move on knowing this.

Thanks to share

When he was in the hospital with cancer, the subject of death came up and I asked him if he should not make it if he would let me move on and he said that he does not know. I told him that I have been good to him all the time and that he should let me move on. He said that if he does not make it that I should go on living my life the way I have always lived it before we met and not to worry. He told me that I am his other half.

Something happened to me on the day of the funeral and I felt a strong gush of wind on me while I was looking at the coffin in the hole and I felt like the wind penetrated into my left feet and I actually fell on my knees. I am not sure if this has something to do with him. I talked to him often but he does not want to cross over. I tell him like this "I will always love you and I was almost your bride but I don't want to die and leave this earth yet. I wish you were alive and I am so sorry that you died but I want you to move on in the spirit world and enjoy your afterlife," and I would usually get a negative vibration. I told him if he was going to cross over vibrate my right hand and if he was not going to do so to vibrate the left hand. I communicate with him through the vibrations or I talk to him like he is a live person because I know that he can hear me. I only do the vibration thing if I need an answer immediately or I need a yes or no answer.

Wow...just- ehr-wow. That's amazing. I knew this would be a good read. Why can't you just talk to him if you're a medium.

I just want to thank everyone for their comments and suggestions and I will reread everything and take everything into consideration. I know that I will have to compromise my social life, and since he does not want to go in the light and he is not bothering me. I will accept the situation and see what I can do with the energy besides crossing over spirits. Some of you suggest healing and I may look into that.

I wanted to cross him over without him being around to intervene in my social life in particular but I guess if I have to live with the situation then I have to find ways to do it comfortably.

I am not sure how to set up the ground rules and I would appreciate any advice on how to do that.

Angel9090 I just read your other submission about the NDE you had when you were 8. So I am going to suggest something else for you to consider. Do you think it is possible for your late boyfriend to be there because he became your spirit guide or at least one of them. If so he is meant to be there to help you and you may have to figure out how to set up ground rules.