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Ankitresearcher (guest)
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8 years ago (2017-05-06)
You misunderstood things, I am not a instructor, I don't train people in demonology, I am a case solver, a demonologist, rather my works are certified, certification just gives assurance that I am not a fake, I have ability to solve such cases, so nope I am not a instructor, I am a demonologist gaining experience by solving cases. And I never said me bring a instructor.
And I never deceive others, I have proved my ability to solve cases and I have been trained much in it so I can, I know my limits and always remember them, I am am a certified demonologist but not instructor who teaches it!
And I never deceive others, I have proved my ability to solve cases and I have been trained much in it so I can, I know my limits and always remember them, I am am a certified demonologist but not instructor who teaches it!
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3329 posts) mod
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8 years ago (2017-05-06)
Ankit: You're absolutely right. There are no experts in the field of the paranormal and so I must apologize for not putting the word "expert" in quotations.
I perused your site as well and noticed that your team offers certification courses. I have to ask, would you be an instructor? Someone with a whole 5 years of experience and 6 months of study? Do you feel you qualify as one with enough knowledge and experience to train others in the field of demonology? Because if you answer "yes" to all of those questions then, in my opinion, not only are you deceiving yourself but others as well. Not cool.
I perused your site as well and noticed that your team offers certification courses. I have to ask, would you be an instructor? Someone with a whole 5 years of experience and 6 months of study? Do you feel you qualify as one with enough knowledge and experience to train others in the field of demonology? Because if you answer "yes" to all of those questions then, in my opinion, not only are you deceiving yourself but others as well. Not cool.
L_Melb (220 posts)
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8 years ago (2017-05-06)
Sorry! I just realized I got side tracked by reading the article from the link - hence my question which had nothing to do with the story (oops 😐)
No serious questions, just curious about how things are seen in a different culture, thanks for your time:) L
No serious questions, just curious about how things are seen in a different culture, thanks for your time:) L
Ankitresearcher (guest)
8 years ago (2017-05-06)
L_melb- the case isn't anything about demon, you can email me your questions, or you can message me on Facebook, I will answer you about each and every question you have about the demonology and demonic study in India and how everything is done.
Also the evp is class B evp and not class A EVP, so you may hear only disembodied voices of chairs and other stuffs being moved!
And we have tried to debunk it in as many ways possible but we got none possible scientific logical explanation
so it's a evidence a EVP evidence!
Also the evp is class B evp and not class A EVP, so you may hear only disembodied voices of chairs and other stuffs being moved!
And we have tried to debunk it in as many ways possible but we got none possible scientific logical explanation
so it's a evidence a EVP evidence!
Ankitresearcher (guest)
8 years ago (2017-05-06)
And there is not expert in this field of paranormal research, we research in paranormal, it's not a skill to be obtained it's continuous research, we can be experienced but not expert, those who call themselves as expert means they know all about it then why do they research if they know all, think about it
Thank you!
Thank you!
Ankitresearcher (guest)
8 years ago (2017-05-06)
Okay, First about the evp, it's a class b evp not not class a so we won't hear any words, any certified paranormal investigator will know what a class b evp is.
Also I m on this field of paranormal for last 5 years, yes for last 5 years, it took me 6 month of training for completing my demonology and it wasn't a joke I did lot of hard work and lot of research, I have done many exorcism and also I have performed many myself and it had been checked by many senior exorcist that the exorcism was perfect or not after I did and each time it was perfect!
Over that, you cannot judge a person without any info about him.
It's a class b evp and it's the only evidence we can show, we have a dozen of visual evidences but we cannot disclose it!
Very sorry it's the privacy policy!
Indian paranormal team uses western as well as eastern methods we have psychics as well as scientific investigator team so we don't follow particular western methods we follow both,
Thank you for your comments!
But I just didn't like the way people get jealous or judge by just the age of a person
I have proved myself in front of many, so I hope I don't have to prove myself in front of everyone
U have my experience and I didn't just do a online course there was were many difficult tests and exam I passed and I solved many cases so once I solve cases and research, I have experience and that's valuable not just the certificate.
About the evp it's a class b evp bot class a, disembodied voices you may hear but not the words clearly
The moving of chairs etc you may hear!.
Thank you!
Also I m on this field of paranormal for last 5 years, yes for last 5 years, it took me 6 month of training for completing my demonology and it wasn't a joke I did lot of hard work and lot of research, I have done many exorcism and also I have performed many myself and it had been checked by many senior exorcist that the exorcism was perfect or not after I did and each time it was perfect!
Over that, you cannot judge a person without any info about him.
It's a class b evp and it's the only evidence we can show, we have a dozen of visual evidences but we cannot disclose it!
Very sorry it's the privacy policy!
Indian paranormal team uses western as well as eastern methods we have psychics as well as scientific investigator team so we don't follow particular western methods we follow both,
Thank you for your comments!
But I just didn't like the way people get jealous or judge by just the age of a person
I have proved myself in front of many, so I hope I don't have to prove myself in front of everyone
U have my experience and I didn't just do a online course there was were many difficult tests and exam I passed and I solved many cases so once I solve cases and research, I have experience and that's valuable not just the certificate.
About the evp it's a class b evp bot class a, disembodied voices you may hear but not the words clearly
The moving of chairs etc you may hear!.
Thank you!
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3329 posts) mod
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
I feel the need to weigh in here about the "certified demonologist". Anyone, and I mean ANYone can get "certified" by making a few clicks of the mouse and several credit card charges. However, I believe it is something that can't possibly be learned/taught in a few hours of some online courses with an unverifiable instructor with questionable credentials. Better to just save yourself the time and money and use Google or, God forbid, go to a real library (you know, that place with all those books you actually have to turn paper pages to get any information from) because the end result would be the same.
Expert demonologists study for decades before they're anywhere near comfortable enough to deal with exorcisms. If anything, all these courses do is give the unwitting participant a false sense of superiority over that which they have no authority. And that spells trouble.
Rant over. Granny out. *drops mic*
Expert demonologists study for decades before they're anywhere near comfortable enough to deal with exorcisms. If anything, all these courses do is give the unwitting participant a false sense of superiority over that which they have no authority. And that spells trouble.
Rant over. Granny out. *drops mic*
Macknorton (5 stories) (646 posts)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Sorry, Mack here again. I looked at your website and it's looks very professional.
I was wondering about a "demonologist" as well: can you please define what a demon is exactly, or your understanding of it?
I keep hearing this word
And for the life of me, I don't really understand it.
Regards
Mack
I was wondering about a "demonologist" as well: can you please define what a demon is exactly, or your understanding of it?
I keep hearing this word
And for the life of me, I don't really understand it.
Regards
Mack
Macknorton (5 stories) (646 posts)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Hi Ankitresearcher
I listened to the EVP recording as well. I personally can't hear anything that could be construed as "evidence".
I couldn't hear any clear words spoken in reply that 100% proves there was a spirit there.
As Val said "am I missing something?"
Please advise exactly what you recorded as evidence on this occasion.
Regards
Mack
I listened to the EVP recording as well. I personally can't hear anything that could be construed as "evidence".
I couldn't hear any clear words spoken in reply that 100% proves there was a spirit there.
As Val said "am I missing something?"
Please advise exactly what you recorded as evidence on this occasion.
Regards
Mack
L_Melb (220 posts)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Sorry to pop up again, but I was wondering, is a belief in demons the "norm" in India? It would seem you're part of a more "western" style team, does this help or hinder your work over there?
(or am I totally wrong?!)
Thanks (again!), L
(or am I totally wrong?!)
Thanks (again!), L
L_Melb (220 posts)
+1
8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Examples could certainly be given without giving personal information - people share stories in this way often. At a certain point it isn't worth sharing if you can't let others know what in fact happened.
Thanks again, L
Thanks again, L
valkricry (49 stories) (3286 posts) mod
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
I'm thinking, there might be a slight problem in translating from your native language to English.
Paranormal does not mean 'parallel to normal'. It comes from the Latin "para" meaning above/against + "norma" meaning rule, or more simplistically, events assumed to be outside of scientific explanation.
The closest I can think for 'parallel to normal' is a mathematical expression, generally found in geometry.
Although, many do believe that the spirit world runs parallel to ours, it isn't what the term 'paranormal' means.
Fun fact: the term paranormal came into usage between 1915 and 1920. HOWEVER some sources say it was in use as early as 1905!
I listened to the EVP, but didn't hear anything I'd think unusual. Might be a case of needing to be there, or maybe I missed something?
Paranormal does not mean 'parallel to normal'. It comes from the Latin "para" meaning above/against + "norma" meaning rule, or more simplistically, events assumed to be outside of scientific explanation.
The closest I can think for 'parallel to normal' is a mathematical expression, generally found in geometry.
Although, many do believe that the spirit world runs parallel to ours, it isn't what the term 'paranormal' means.
Fun fact: the term paranormal came into usage between 1915 and 1920. HOWEVER some sources say it was in use as early as 1905!
I listened to the EVP, but didn't hear anything I'd think unusual. Might be a case of needing to be there, or maybe I missed something?
Ankitresearcher (guest)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
At the end I got permission to share one evidence, which is a EVP and as no information of client has been disclosed in it, I got the permission to share
Here it is -
Https://soundcloud.com/user-406731552/evp-by-indian-paranormal-team
Here is the link to the evp captured by Indian Paranormal Team. You can hear a low sound after the question "Is anybody here who wants to talk to us and give us some signs?"
The sound has been amplified for your convineince at the end of the clip.
This clip was captured between 2 - 2:30 am
Here it is -
Https://soundcloud.com/user-406731552/evp-by-indian-paranormal-team
Here is the link to the evp captured by Indian Paranormal Team. You can hear a low sound after the question "Is anybody here who wants to talk to us and give us some signs?"
The sound has been amplified for your convineince at the end of the clip.
This clip was captured between 2 - 2:30 am
Ankitresearcher (guest)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
https://www.indianparanormalteam.com/
Well we do more than solving paranormal cases so for all details of services we offer and just to know everything about Indian paranormal team, visit this official page of Indian paranormal team,
Https://www.indianparanormalteam.com/
Well we do more than solving paranormal cases so for all details of services we offer and just to know everything about Indian paranormal team, visit this official page of Indian paranormal team,
Https://www.indianparanormalteam.com/
Ankitresearcher (guest)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Thank you,
Lemme clear your doubts,
Yup we are a private team, to know more about Indian paranormal team visit
Indianparanormalteam.com
Nope a demonologist is not always required to solve a case but, as we weren't informed much about the case, we always have to be open to the probability that if in case there's a demonic entity there then we need a demonologist, also a certified demonologist is always well qualified to deal with spirit haunting and such cases, so a demonologist can always attend, analyse and solve such cases.
I only made the way by which the case is solved public, I m very sorry for the fact that I couldn't share the evidences but we have no choice, we are bounded by the privacy policy and we cannot break it as a legal document on privacy agreement is always signed before any private investigation.
In the link, I shared they way a person becomes certified demonologist, there is a proper course, proper exam and proper testing of all things before one becomes a demonologist as solving a demonic case and anything related to demonic entities are very risky and very difficult tasks, a single mistake and lives are at risk!
There are many certified demonologist all over the world.
Yup we exist!
Lemme clear your doubts,
Yup we are a private team, to know more about Indian paranormal team visit
Indianparanormalteam.com
Nope a demonologist is not always required to solve a case but, as we weren't informed much about the case, we always have to be open to the probability that if in case there's a demonic entity there then we need a demonologist, also a certified demonologist is always well qualified to deal with spirit haunting and such cases, so a demonologist can always attend, analyse and solve such cases.
I only made the way by which the case is solved public, I m very sorry for the fact that I couldn't share the evidences but we have no choice, we are bounded by the privacy policy and we cannot break it as a legal document on privacy agreement is always signed before any private investigation.
In the link, I shared they way a person becomes certified demonologist, there is a proper course, proper exam and proper testing of all things before one becomes a demonologist as solving a demonic case and anything related to demonic entities are very risky and very difficult tasks, a single mistake and lives are at risk!
There are many certified demonologist all over the world.
Yup we exist!
BeautInside (3 stories) (326 posts)
+3
8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Hi Ankit,
Thank you for replying.
Don't want to sound disrescpectful but it is frustrating, at least for me, not being provided with specific details. This was just like giving a candy to a child and take it away... If you know what I mean.
Thank you for providing the link. From it I can conclud that Indian Paranormal Team reawarded Ankit Sharma as Youngest Certified Demonologist, but if you can answer this question for me I'd be very grateful: Are you a private paranormal team or is there far more to this? I come from Portugal and never heard of it before, and I am very curious as to how someone can be a certified demonologist. This is just out of curiosity.
I think I wasn't very clear in one of my questions, I understood that the floor was being haunted by a spirit but would like to know more about the nature of it... And this leads me to another doubt, is a demonologist required to deal with a spirit? Shouldn't be called only when there's a demoniac entity involved?
I have to be honest with you, I understand this was a private case but you still made it public somehow...
Just hope you can clear some of my doubts. 😊
Blessings.
Thank you for replying.
Don't want to sound disrescpectful but it is frustrating, at least for me, not being provided with specific details. This was just like giving a candy to a child and take it away... If you know what I mean.
Thank you for providing the link. From it I can conclud that Indian Paranormal Team reawarded Ankit Sharma as Youngest Certified Demonologist, but if you can answer this question for me I'd be very grateful: Are you a private paranormal team or is there far more to this? I come from Portugal and never heard of it before, and I am very curious as to how someone can be a certified demonologist. This is just out of curiosity.
I think I wasn't very clear in one of my questions, I understood that the floor was being haunted by a spirit but would like to know more about the nature of it... And this leads me to another doubt, is a demonologist required to deal with a spirit? Shouldn't be called only when there's a demoniac entity involved?
I have to be honest with you, I understand this was a private case but you still made it public somehow...
Just hope you can clear some of my doubts. 😊
Blessings.
Ankitresearcher (guest)
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8 years ago (2017-05-05)
L_Melb- As the case was a PRIVATE CASE, We don't have the permission to share the evidences, privacy protection you know!
Bibliothecarius -Certified by Indian Paranormal Team Academy, Its one of the two institutes in India that provide certifications in demonology and paranormal investigation. Here is the link if you want more info https://www.paisawapas.com/student-stories/worlds-youngest-demonologist/.
Macknorton - we always check for a scientific or logical explanation for every thing we experience, the smell wasn't something like a fart smell, it was very strange smell, moreover it was spread over the whole area in just few seconds can be said instantly, there was no known sources for such smell. No logic, no explanation, conclusion, it was don't to interrupt our cleansing!
Being certified we are trained enough to at-least not let a fart smell been counted under paranormal evidences or paranormal experiences!
Manafon1 - same as above!
BeautInside - we had many E.V.Ps, we had motion sensor going of at various locations, we had psychics reporting sensations at many locations, we even had visual evidences, I am not able to share any evidences as it was a private case but being professional and certified paranormal investigation team which is internationally renowned, we had done a full proof investigation along with analysis of every evidences until every depth, we applied all sorts of logic and at the end what is unexplained by science is paranormal evidences (paranormal = parallel to normal)
Hence we concluded that its haunted location, above is just the summary of case.
Its the most we can share.
Thank you.
If you read the summary carefully, you will realize what was haunting it!
Bibliothecarius -Certified by Indian Paranormal Team Academy, Its one of the two institutes in India that provide certifications in demonology and paranormal investigation. Here is the link if you want more info https://www.paisawapas.com/student-stories/worlds-youngest-demonologist/.
Macknorton - we always check for a scientific or logical explanation for every thing we experience, the smell wasn't something like a fart smell, it was very strange smell, moreover it was spread over the whole area in just few seconds can be said instantly, there was no known sources for such smell. No logic, no explanation, conclusion, it was don't to interrupt our cleansing!
Being certified we are trained enough to at-least not let a fart smell been counted under paranormal evidences or paranormal experiences!
Manafon1 - same as above!
BeautInside - we had many E.V.Ps, we had motion sensor going of at various locations, we had psychics reporting sensations at many locations, we even had visual evidences, I am not able to share any evidences as it was a private case but being professional and certified paranormal investigation team which is internationally renowned, we had done a full proof investigation along with analysis of every evidences until every depth, we applied all sorts of logic and at the end what is unexplained by science is paranormal evidences (paranormal = parallel to normal)
Hence we concluded that its haunted location, above is just the summary of case.
Its the most we can share.
Thank you.
If you read the summary carefully, you will realize what was haunting it!
BeautInside (3 stories) (326 posts)
+5
8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Ankitresearcher,
Seriously? What was haunting the place? What exactly led you to believe it was from a supernatural nature? EMF meters, demonologist, scientific team? You tell about tons of evidence but in the end you tell nothing at all.
Mack and Manafon, you just cracked me up lolol
This is probably a ghost fa#t case, it's a shame they didn't have a toothbrush, it might have "cleaned" it away lol
Blessings.
Seriously? What was haunting the place? What exactly led you to believe it was from a supernatural nature? EMF meters, demonologist, scientific team? You tell about tons of evidence but in the end you tell nothing at all.
Mack and Manafon, you just cracked me up lolol
This is probably a ghost fa#t case, it's a shame they didn't have a toothbrush, it might have "cleaned" it away lol
Blessings.
Manafon1 (7 stories) (722 posts)
+5
8 years ago (2017-05-05)
Oh man Mack, you got me laughing out loud! Yeah, it does seem you might be on to something here. After the meditation session was interrupted by the "tainted smell", "they felt relief as the surroundings seemed much lighter and they didn't feel a looming pressure around them." This could be read as a very self explanatory thing 😜. Reminds me of a Saturday Night Live skit from a few years back where a paranormal investigation team was parodied.
Turns out one of the team farted and another team member picked it up on their thermal scope as a "greenish ectoplasmic emanation" (something along those lines) that lead directly to the culprit's posterior. Of course he was the guy that kept telling the other investigators, "I didn't hear anything."
Paranormal investigations can sometimes bring about unexpected results.
Turns out one of the team farted and another team member picked it up on their thermal scope as a "greenish ectoplasmic emanation" (something along those lines) that lead directly to the culprit's posterior. Of course he was the guy that kept telling the other investigators, "I didn't hear anything."
Paranormal investigations can sometimes bring about unexpected results.
Macknorton (5 stories) (646 posts)
+6
8 years ago (2017-05-04)
Well, that's great. I'll be sleeping better tonight knowing that!
Can I ask about this aspect; "...They sensed a very tainted smell spread into the surrounding but even under such dire circumstances, the team managed to get through with the cleansing and kept their focus intact..."
That smell, surely, could have a multitude of sources? Possibly one of the Spiritual department team and / or Scientific department team may have sneakily passed wind but was too embarrassed to confess to it, especially if it was a particularly eye-watering one?
Just a thought...
Can I ask about this aspect; "...They sensed a very tainted smell spread into the surrounding but even under such dire circumstances, the team managed to get through with the cleansing and kept their focus intact..."
That smell, surely, could have a multitude of sources? Possibly one of the Spiritual department team and / or Scientific department team may have sneakily passed wind but was too embarrassed to confess to it, especially if it was a particularly eye-watering one?
Just a thought...
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1091 posts)
+5
8 years ago (2017-05-04)
Greetings, Ankit.
Certified by whom?
Just curious.
-Biblio.
Certified by whom?
Just curious.
-Biblio.
L_Melb (220 posts)
+5
8 years ago (2017-05-04)
Don't mean to complain or sound ungrateful, but if you had "tonnes of evidence" it would be helpful to share some kind of example in your story!
Thanks, L:)
Thanks, L:)
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