Comments for He Won't Leave Me Alone...: Page 1

i have had this exact thing happen to me. Well let me tell you frist off that I don't think that this is a demon, I just think that it is a ghost that is really protective of you. But my ghost is much more physical. I'll feel kisses on my cheek out of nowhere and I'll feel arms wrapping aroud me. When I ignore him or tell him to just back off he doen't do anything until I go to bed. I will wake up with (bigger than a softball) sized bruses on my legs. My best friend and I wanted to kno what he wanted and so we made a home made ouija board and he said that he loved me and he always has. To me this is sweet and very creepy at the same time. But I kno what you are going through, be strong. 😊

Hi,I lived in Hong Kong,man,same experience like as you.
You said the (it is that the air gets thick and cold in the areas),you're talking the true, ghosts get touch with us the feels.
Yes,if you shout to them, they really like as kids will cry.
(crying sound same as human no any different)
But I don't understand why they don't kill me still now if they're the real Demons.

Hi;

Old George has some real good stuff, and insights re. This thing. To the poster: You choose wisely, and (no pressure) I'm standing by to help ya. It is a demon, and will continue its foul abuse, unless you and I stop it. Just give me an email. Dukes2352atAOL.com.

your going to have a great surprise when this thing really lashes out. Its a demon. And a powerful one if it can physically touch you. I recommend you do something because it doesn't sound good it sounds like its going to get to the point where this entity is going to get so attached that it will want attention every minute and that's impossible and then that's when your going to get hurt on the other hand I could be wrong but I'm usually right about these things.

Thorn:

One thing you must do, be clensed! I don't know anyone in you area who can clense you. O ce a ghost got attached to my friend and she had to do a hole $$& [at] (:& of stuff to get rid of her. A guy named mark had to clense her but I live around lake louise Alberta sooo one more thing being clensed can cost about 120$ its a lot!

hey Thorn... Must say you have a good friend!...well I have a friend who had a ghost like you... And she grew with that ghost ever since! 😊

Dear Thorn,

Some folks ask, when bad things happen, 'why me?' In this case, I think you now understand why. This 'thing' has been allowed into your life to help you grow. You are learning more about yourself, and you will grow stronger by fighting against it. This struggle is a 'gift,' in that it cannot really hurt you unless you permit it to or give up, but I think you know enough now that you will find the right path and stick with it. You will also learn to pay attention to the more subtle hints that other people or spirits give off. Very often, we want things so bad we ignore warning signs.
You have a good resource with JimD, and I hope you will contact him and let him help you. He has the expertise (I've attended one of his lectures, so I can attest to his credentials) and willingness to devote his time to others in this matter.
Just a thought: humans souls and angels are not insulted by our scepticism regarding their intentions. Usually the opposite is true and they are glad that we take our safety seriously. Kind of like when a kid refuses to get into a car because he does not talk to strangers. We are happy the child understands the threat of abduction, even if the stranger is benevolent.
Goodness is humble. It does not go around drawing attention to itself. There are far more good angelic beings than bad, but the bad work overtime to get our attention. So, we are more likely to 'experience' a negative presence because the good ones that surround us work quietly on our behalf.
I believe in God, and I believe He is here and everywhere present, but I also believe He does not force Himself on us. He helps us when we ask, and we can sense His presence and His protection when we pay attention, usually in times of distress once the wheels in our heads stop racketing and we have moments of silence. I think you might be sensing His compassion for you. JimD will help you learn to allow God to intervene through His ministers, the saints and angels, so that this entity can be driven away.
You will have some choices to make, but I think you will choose wisely what is Good and loving and selfless over what is wrong and chaotic and selfish.

If this entity was alive we would call it an abusive relationship. Women in abusive relationships always make excuses: "he is not that bad," "when he is good he is great" and blah, blah. He is not good for you. Period. You feel special because he is so interested in you, but what will happen when you fall in love with a real person? When you have children? Will he share you? Will he hurt them? He's stuck to you because you have allowed him to remain stuck to you and YOU also make him feel important. If you are afraid to cut ties immediately you can start by setting stronger boundaries. How about telling him that if he ever hurts you or anyone else you'll do everything in your power to get rid of him? Be strong and MEAN IT when you say this. Stop taking his abuse. He does not control you. YOU CONTROL YOU!

erm, Go-God-Go, I think you need to get some sleep and take a happy pill. Thorn is soooo a beliver in God! Plus, she seems frickin awsome! She don't need you telling her what she is. Dont be an a$$. Ok? Just dont.
She does not sin, and dosent need to repent unless she wants to.

Blessed be
Lolli 😐

Thorn: I'm so glad you've made up your mind to seek help to begin with... That was step #1, and the most difficult...

I think JimD is the one who can advise you, and pull you through this... Do yourself a favor and e-mail him... We may not always agree with him, but there are times when I think he's on target 😲...

Please keep us posted, I really wish you the best! ❤

The reason why you are being tormented by this demonic spirit is because you arent a true believer in God. REPENT and He shall protect you from the path of Hell!
If you regret your sin of Necropolis now, He will shine His everlasting light on you and shield you from this evil.

May God bless all his deserving children

Thorn I'm glad you are taking this course of action I do believe it is in your best interest especially for your future as I mentioned in a previous comment, I wish you all the best with this. 😊

Dan

This is going to be one heck of a long comment~
While I was taking my shower, I was thinking about how I should respond to your comments. I feel one huge general comment to all of you is the best way to go, seeing as I have so much to say. Every single person on here, everyone who has commented on my story, your all just so wonderful. You all have my heartfelt gratitude and thanks. ❤ I kept this problem to my self for years, scared that no one would believe me, no one would listen, and yet here I am, with people not only willing to listen without teasing and scoffing, but lending their advice, and support. You can't understand how much that touches me.
And I know, I know, that there are others out there who are like me, who have the same problems as me, because where there is one, there are many. And these people are keeping it to themselves like I did, their afraid to ask for help, please those of you who prayed for me, please pray for those people as well.
There has been discussion on here about whether or not he is evil. Some say that he's evil, some say that he's just bad, others say that he's good and just misunderstood.
I've thought long and hard about this, perhaps he's not evil. I believe that he is. He has a tendency to leave me alone for periods of time, before comming back to bother me some more. Almost as if he's taking a break. During those short breaks, I feel refreshed and at peace. Simply put, I like the way I feel when he's gone, way better then how I feel when he's with me. I want him gone for good now.
This choice I've made also stems from the fact, that the best advice I've gotten is from those who say that he's evil. And I'm going to follow that advice. As someone on here said, if he's not evil, these things won't hurt him. (Only insult him, right? 😉)
I'm at a period right now, where he still bothers me, but I also feel protected, safe. Perhaps it's an angel, but I think it's something better. I believe that the good will, the prayers, and thoughts that all of you have expressed have more power then you think. Each of you in your own little way has been protecting me from him, empowering me to stand up to something I don't always understand.
It's not going to be easy, is life ever easy? But now I know something I didn't know before, and that's that I really can get through this, it may take awhile, but by God I know I can and that makes a world of difference.
Again, please keep posting up advice and comments, all of them are so helpful. I can't thank you guys enough.
God Bless ❤

actually when I was little I had something like this. It had a ghosty buddie who liked to push me out of bed alot... It hurt but I really didn't fear it.

~ghost are dead. Not aliens~
Talim ❤

Whatever this thing is, it's hurting you, Thorn. And you have stated that it's ignoring the rules you set. That is not a good sign. I understand that it can be nice at times, but it seems that the bad is outweighing the good. Otherwise, you wouldn't be here. Take a long hard look at this, make a list of this being's good traits on the left side of a piece of paper, bad traits on the right. Decide which outweighs the other. Take into consideration that he is affecting not just you, but also those around you. Is it fair to let the people you care for be affected by this situation?
You describe yourself as submissive. Learn not to be. Fight. Fight for yourself. Fight for your loved ones. There are those out there, flesh-and-blood and non-physical, who consider submissiveness weakness. Your best defense against the paranormal, and against living bullies, is a healthy sense of confidence and self-worth. Please don't take this the wrong way, but the more I read your story, the more it sounds like you lack confidence. Don't lack confidence. You are a child of a greater power, a special and unique individual. You have power over your life, your fate. Don't feel afraid to exercise that power. Take control.
Blessings ❤

Regarding cold spots: the theory that spirits 'draw energy' from the material is really a contradiction if one thinks about it, since spirits are, by nature, not material. They do not feed off of material forces, but rather can manipulate the material world to certain degrees.
Now, heat and warmth are, by nature, lower forms of light (light is a high concentration of energy). The experience of physical 'cold spots' means that energy is being 'pushed away' from an area, like light being pushed away or avoided.
In all cultures that I know of, cold is associated with evil, and is darkness and avoidance of light. This is why demons are often seen as 'shadows,' but in the sense of areas devoid of light.
This is not meant to be particularly Christian, though traditional Christianity holds to such ideas. Demonic forces generally avoid light, preferring the darkness, both literally and figuratively speaking. It is no surprise that they would also push away the warmth around them. Their torment, in the Christian tradition, is ultimately heat and light.
Anyway, JimD has a lot of experience and has helped a lot of people, so his advice is worth considering at the very least. His methodologies are well-tested over time, and so they are reliable. Obviously, if you have something that you think is better, than it would be pointless to argue. That's why I generally don't argue with folks, because it is pointless: neither side wants to yield, so it just goes in circles.

Hey;

Hi, GG. Yes, that's a beautiful name. It was probably given to a (once) Holy angel - now a demon. Even my native American friend (he's half Sue and half Hopi) said this one sounded evil 100%. Yep, it's a demon, and the more the author allows this foul demon into her life, the harder extraction will be. Cold spots do (you are correct) indicate an evil spirit drawing heat energy to themselves. Anytime one of the Holy angels has appeared over the last 6 centuries, it never gets cold. Just consider this, please.

Hey, free advice. No coersion. I'm here when it turns real bad, which, I promise you, it will. To the poster;I'm here for you, and always will be. Dukes2352atAOL.com.

-JimD
As Talim said, sorry to contridact you, but I have some ghosty kowledge. Cold spots are generally made when a spirit tries to draw energy from the sorrunding air and use it to manifeast. Notice that is drawing from the AIR not her. 😁
I've been emailing Thorn and it seems to me that this ghost isn't all that bad. Infact she said that he responses to the name "Uriah" which I looked up and means "God's Light" Why would a demon have that name?
Lol, just my opinion!

Thorn, I really do believe you should get the sage. It will help you, and your ghost, think clearer and more postivly. Hell, get the holy water if you believe its a demon. Point being, the sage and holy water will not hurt your ghosty unless he's a demon!

-Are the dead really gone?-

Blessed be
Lolli ❤

jimD:
Sorry to contradict you but native americans burn sage often to protect thyemselfs from negative energies and they are VERY spirtual people

~darkness isn't always evil~
Talim ❤

this seem like a ghost from a past life. Either that or a ghosty took a liking to you. If YOU don't feel uncomfortable around him then he can't be all bad.

~ghosts are just dead. Not aliens~
Talim ❤

Well said Rashidah.
As Thorn describes herself as Christian, then JimD's solution may be what works best for her. Individual faith is the key to any method of ridding oneself of unwanted spiritual entities. Whether that faith be in holy water or some other means, it's faith that makes it work.

What works for one may not work for the other and vice versa. Life is full of many unanswered mysteries.
That does not mean a particular diagnoses and a remedy is wrong or worthless. It is sometimes according to a situation or a person
If one method fails it is wise to try another method ❤

Hi;

Some interesting questions. It is what it is. In this case, and many others, it IS crystal clear. (no pun intended). Holy water is objectively blessed, an objective truth, and will work regardless of the subjective faith or holiness of the user. Objective facts don't depend on subjrctive beliefs. 90+ % of theses posts are preternatural in nauture. This site is a repository therefore. The symptoms are clear, so therefore, is the cure. About 30 posters have privately emailed me, after having obtained relief, when all else failed. They did not want to believe the worst. Hey, I understand. No more diversions; to the poster: It's demonic; get that Catholic Holy water; you're going to need it. You're in my prayers. Dukes2352atAOL.com.

No those other possibilities are not possible. It is a demon. Cold spots, fear, chaos, physical assaults, etc. Nobody would say that's positive, would they? I use what works, and only what is centuries - tested. Time may be of the esssnce here.

PS Do you (and I mean this with charity - I really do) question the hundreds who suggetst burning sage, or use of vinegar? If these fail, and I get an email, what would be your counsel then? Just curious.

hi thorn that's really scary, I really feel for you, its up to you what to do but I would send this thing on to where it belongs he doesn't sound good, psalm 23 is a prayer for protection, we to had a couple of ghosts in our house, things were ok but I got scared when it called my name three times in the night, we had the house blessed, after that, now the whole house is different like cleaner and cleanzed and the air is lighter so I am so glad that we did it, cheers good luck and god bless di

JimD, I realize this is a public post and that everyone has the right to their own opinion, but does it always have to be a demon. Some people don't even believe in demons. Like me for instance. Now whether you believe in them or not, yeah, I'd agree, there's the outstanding possibility of their existence. However, there are things about spirits that should be remembered. One: They are like people; they feel emotions, they can lie, or they can be completely and bluntly honest. Or even all of the above.
Two: obviously they have at least some sort of energy that courses through them, being as, sometimes you get THOSE SCRATCHES or you feel as if someone touched you when no one was there. Sometimes they can move things. And sometimes, there are spirits with so much anger, hate and regret inside of them, that they feed off of your energy, and try to take control of you, who knows why, maybe to make an attempt for redemption. But I guess what I'm getting at is, if there is the possibility that this is a demon, isn't there the possibility that it also isn't a demon. In which case, if it were a demon, would thorn be able to sense it's regret after it scratched her? Because, in my study of demons, even if they can pretend to show signs of regret, maybe to gain trust, it isn't real, therefore there is a difference in the energy release? Isn't that also a possibility? Another thing is, there are many ways to cleanse an area without "holy water" (besides, what can holy water do, if there isn't the belief behind it.-the belief that it WILL work, that is.-) one way, is to take a bundle of dried sage, tie a piece of RED yarn around it and burn it, bringing it around to each and every nook and cranny in the house and or 'haunted' area, and while doing so, in your mind or out loud, command the spirit (or demon, if you will) to leave and return from where it came, and to never come back. It is the belief, behind the ritual. If you don't believe it will work, IT WON'T.
I'm not completely denying the existence of DEMONS that is for you and everyone else to decide for themselves, I'm simply pointing out another, very probable, alternative. Your comment was well stated and if that is how you choose to deal with your own 'supernatural' encounters, then hey, whatever, it's you're choice. But, when being open minded (at least open minded enough to believe in demons and such.), is it alright to disregard other possibilities?

Thorn, I wish you luck in what ever you choose to do. I only hope that you are able to use your own beliefs to deal with the situation at hand. Maybe JimD is right. Maybe he is wrong. But that doesn't really matter. What really matters, is the choice you make, as to what you believe, and what you plan to do with those beliefs.
Good Luck,
CASP3R
If you have any further questions, you may also email me at red_raver [at] rocketmail.com.

Hi;

I must say it's CLEARLY A DEMON. The choking, cold spots, sctarching, etc. Are clearly demonic. It's slowly embedding its foul self into your life. Fear and chaos are also present. You allude to the chaos, and other friends allude to fear.

If you don't believe me, the next time this "ghost" appears, say "Jesus, Mary and St. Michael the Archangel help me". Say it or think it. Watch its reaction. Satan hates being unmasked.

Its goals are first possession, and second suicide. If Catholic, I strongly recommend frequent receipt of the sacraments (Mass, confession, Holy Communion, etc.). Daily Rosary also helps a lot.

But if not Catholic, get and use, especialy at night, Catholic Holy water - on your bed. Lots of Catholic Holy water. Watch the "ghost's" reaction. By their fruits you will know them.

Good luck, God bless, and email if you need more, which you will. Dukes2352atAOL.com. Jim D.

i'd say, if its what you really want. Make the ground rules, but set some type of reward. I don;t know what that would be but I'm sure you could figure out something. You can try it as many times as you want, but if it doesn't work, there's the possibility that it might anger him, and cause him to do further damage. If he starts to take more control over you life, its an obvious sign that you need to send him away.
Hope that helps.

wow if that was me it would give me the creeps. I couldn't see myself being close or even friends with a ghost. Well thanks for sharing your story.

Hi, I'm Lyla & I would like to say I am a "physic" If You would like yo say 😊 Anyway, as I read this... I did not feel good. I too like to look on the "brighter" side of things... But sometimes... You just can't. The way you describe him is very...dark. He's trying to single you out. He only wants you...I'm not sure why. But, He has started with your friend, by making her uncomfortable. You need to get rid of him... For your own safety. If you have anything else new... Please do tell 😜

Keep trying or send him away altogther, it's up to you. I think it would be safer for you if you sent him away altogether. Ultimately, it's all up to you, but it isn't selfish to protect yourself. Please don't let this creature hurt you anymore.

Casp3r, Even angels have the free will to choose to be bad, so I see where your comming from. I've been working on the ground rules, but he doesn't seem to listen to them. 😢 Ah well, kids don't stop bad behavior the first time you slap their hands and tell them no, so I guess... Just keep trying right?

zzsgranny, XD it would be amazing if it did work, and I did set up some basic ground rules last night... Which he seems to have taken upon himself to disreagard. *sighs* Maybe I wasn't firm enough or something.

One of the most important things to remember when faced with spiritual encounters is simply that, Spirits were once living human beings with human emotions. Do you think those emotions go away when you die? Personally, I don't. They can lie, just like we can, they can feel compassion or hatred, just like we can. And if they can feel these things, why not jealousy? After all, they, are us, only not alive ^_^. Lots of people might say, run away, seek help, or whatever. Personally I think that's crap. You should feel as though YOU are in complete control, because you are. There are easy ways to get rid of unwelcome spirits, as for this one. I agree with setting ground rules. If this spirit is so attached to you, it will agree. The only problem is, it may not physically be able to change it's behavior. Since, its kind of, I don't know, frozen in time, its mind set, may not be capable of following those rules. At any rate, good luck.

Thanks Granny I will do in next couple of days just remember to check your spam inbox hahaha. 😁

Sorry Thorn last one I promise! 😊

DARKNESS: G'day,mate!...'ow's the shrimp on the barby?...Good to hear from you, too...E-mail me any time if you want to chat, since we can't get you to face book! ❤

Thorn: sorry for hijacking your page! 😳

G'day Granny good to hear your opinion on this! She has been given some great advice here I hope it all goes well for you Thorn which ever way you choose to approach this situation.
Will be in contact Granny.😁

Thanks

Dan

Thorn: LOL!...it's nothing to be ashamed of, we all put up with stuff to a certain extent 😆...Here's what I think: your ground rules should include letting "him" know that he can not have all of you all of the time, if giving rules is what you intend to do... And let him know that if he has anyhting BUT good intentions toward you, then he needs to fly away!...Unfortunately, the kick in the crotch, I don't think, will work

😆...

So many people are giving you advice, it's really hard to decide what to do... Do what feels best for you and your abilities... If you think you need a medium, priest, guru, whatever, then by all means, inlist some one to help... ❤

Alright well, he dosen't SEEM bad, but if he IS a demon (which I seriously hope he's not, cause that would seriously suck) he would be awsome at secreacy. Your friend dosent like him cause hes hurting you. I get that. He dosen't like her I'm guessing for one of two reasons: One: He's a demon/bad and dosen't like being called out on that. Two: He ISNT a demon and simply dosent like that hes being mean to her.

Its out. You see, I'm a medium, and I usually don't "feel" anything with peoples experiences, but for this one I do. Maybe cause you need more help? Anyways, I feel for some reason that this ghost of yours has some sort of mental issue for some reason. Not huge, just small, more like a big kid, as you said. If this is true, treat him like a person. Be nice and sugary-sweet! If he dose something to hurt you, tell him "NO! You don't do that!" Like a mother would tell a child
-shrugs- Just my opinion.
Also, for some reason, I feel like his name is either "Mike" or "John" If you would could please maybe ask him if that's his name for me? Sorry, but I need to be in the room with a ghost to hear its response. Youre friend seems like a medium too right? Maybe have her ask and then let me know threw my email please?
My email is posted on my profile.

-Love and Light-

Blessed be
Lolli ❤

zzsgranny, sad thing is I would put up with to a certain point *lowers head ashamed and laughs*, but yeah if a 'real' person did some of the things he's done I would've kicked him in the crotch and thrown him out of the house a long time ago. Good point~

seesthings626, Thanks for the warning, I've heard nothing but bad things about those boards. And wouldn't use one if my life depend on it.
And I was also suprised by the number of people out there who have something like this going on. It's amazing to think about it really. Guess we aren't as alone as we thought we were eh?

WReck72, I never thought about it from that perspective, mostly cause I've never had to deal with it, or was never in the middle of it before with my friends. But your right I should focus more on my real friends, and stop letting him nudge his way in between our relationships, (though his plan always backfires, cause afterwords I'm always more focused on comforting/cheering up my friend then paying attention to him. XD) Thank you for the comment and the grammer wasn't a problem at all. So don't worry about it. 😆

Delrio, your comment was interesting, I came across a study once. It was done by a parnomal team. They made up a person, his name, age, time he died, how he died, and even his personality. Then they went into a know haunted house or something like that with these thoughts in mind and tried to contact an entity of sometype. Something did show up and made physical evidence, as in knocking that was caught on tape, and moving things around, but the thing was exactly like the person they made up before hand. Which makes one wonder just how powerfull our minds actually are or if it was just some demon messing with them. So I'll definatly keep it in mind, I think he's real, but my feelings and mind could be giving him more power over me then he actually has. Again, really cool comment. 😊

Thorn: Let me just ask you this: If this were a "real" person, would you put up with being treated like that?... ❤

I see that there are a lot of people on here saying that they ahve spirits hanging around them. I have one hanging around me and I know that their not bad cause they have kept me out of danger. I think everyone has one hanging around them. My friend has one too. I'm not sure about yours thorn he doesn't seem as nice as he could be. Oh and a word of warning never ue an Ouiji board...
Be careful 😐

I just posted on "Demon Took The Form Of Dad" I think it is very relates closely to this story. Any good entity will encourage most real life relationships this one not only is trying to get you attention all the time it is tormenting your friends which to create a rift between you and them. You know how your friend's always have that one friend that is just needy as all hell whiny always wants attention and you just have no clue why your friend is friends with them when they are such a pain in the "A" and lack any worth while qualities. Or they have that friend that's just a complete "A" hole but thinks their gods gift. I'm sure you know the one. Any way when you are out with your friend and THAT friend comes along you play nice you act civil even though you both know you don't like each other. Why do you do this? Cause you don't want to cause problems or put your friend in an uncomfortable position. Your little friend is not playing nice and is causing problems he is not doing this by mistake. Your view of he doesn't like her because she doesn't like him is the view that he has created. In reality he tormented her to cause a problem. Focus on your real friends this one my make you feel special cause he's so protective of you but it's the same and any abusive relationship 100% bad. Be watchful of your real life relations you are most likely easily baited. You said yourself "I'm not very attractive" which means flattery and attention will go along way with you. Remember your body is simple something that belongs to you it is not you. You talked a fair bit about yourself and you sound lovely. Any way sorry to ramble on so much and for the poor writing grammar and all.

Thorn, with this being... Try not to befriend it to much, if it hurts you tell him off, don't make threats of any kind.

Some ghosts or spirits arent actually those things, sometimes they are memories or even your brain, so in the end you are telling yourself off, things that huant you are most likely a part of your brain that has more brain power than other people's, it is very rare for the BEING to actually do fatal harm, the only times it will do harm is when you think you deserve it, this is when your brain sends out messages to make your body feel like it is in pain. Some times it sends waves to your friend because she believes in it, remember the brain is a powerful thing.

I am not trying to insult or say its a ghost or not, however I am trying to say. Don't think of it. Ignore it, this will be hard since it has been with you for a decade.

Please do not misinterprit these words. I am just trying to offer some help to you =)

Regards Son of the river.

angeldemon, oh I'm sorry I misunderstood you! 😢, it was a good point too! Well, now I get it... *laughs*

moonshadow, I think maybe I just need to set up some ground rules with him, and I've been praying and encouraging him to move on sense day one, but maybe...*crosses fingers* maybe alls it will take is one more prayer, you never know.
God Bless~

Ashmere, so it's okay to contact him and to try to learn more about him? I'd be interested in trying it, but I also want to be safe about it. 😁

Nephele, I would suggest keeping a journal about your experiences... It's easy to brush them off when your just thinking back on them, but to re-read entrys about it sorta hits home sometimes.

CrystalAngelWings, yes I get what your saying and it basically is the same with me, except he's a full grown adult, and Faith is a little girl. Which to me makes him slightly more creepy. *laughs* Do you get what I mean?

Kayden_Fare, my best friend had two young children ghosts named Mark and Alice (siblings but not twins) that sound a lot like your boy James. We're under the impression Mark and Alice have moved on, where and if it was due to our prayers and pleadings we don't know, but they've left her house.
I don't think my guy is like that... But I suppose it doesn't mean he's evil as all get out either. Thanks so much for sharing your story with me!

Hi Guys sorry I haven't commented back in a few days (final exams and such)... Okay, Delrio... No one close to me has ever died. Just lucky I guess, and I've never done a spirit calling. My house is about... Well it was thirty years old, ten or so years ago so it's probable almost forty now, and there was a pretty bad fire once. That might have something to do with him. I don't think anyone has died in this house. (We've owned it for almost twenty years now.)

I don't think he's that bad. I have something similar, a boy named James hangs out around me and my room. He's quiet and doesn't talk, but he'll hang around when I need something. He'll sit on my bed at around one in the morning and will just look at me, but it isn't threatening, and it's mostly after I have a nightmare that causes me major distress. Again, if he's done nothing to hurt you serriously, then he may be like a companion that just wants to be around someone. Hope it all keeps well. 😊

I'm 15 and I have the had same kind of thing to some extent. It's a little girl named Faith who follows me around and shows up if I'm scared. She has never been mean to me but I'm scared of her at times. I have seen her once when I was little and twice recently after I started to realize she is constantly in my room. She moves a lot of things in my room. She has also hugged me and hung on my shoulders. My friend says that she is like a guardian angel but when I see her alone sometimes she feels a little meaner. She also talks to my friend but not to me. I've been having more weird stuff happen every day.

I don't think you should worry about the man much. As long as he never poses as a dangerous threat. Once that happens I think you should listen to your friend.

Hello Thorn,

Tell me. Have you ever done any form of spirit calling?

If not has anyone in your family or of your friends died when you were 11?

If that's not the case have you noticed anyone not been themself since you were 11?

Oh by the way. The being wants you. He wants to control all you are and have. If it is what I think it is... Treat yourself well and he will treat you well. He is part of your body if this is the case. He is part of your mind.

Regards The Son of the River.

this is very interesting to me. When I was 6 I always remember though at this point to me it is not that big of a deal. But when I was 6 I would see a man standing in my doorway always watching me. I never spoke directly to him, which at this point I'm thankful for. He would never leave me alone. Finally I told my parents and we prayed about it. Saying if he's evil make him go away. My parents couldn't see anyone. He DID go away and I haven't seen him since and now I am 15 but lately since I was 11 I feel like I'm being watched and the feeling is getting stronger. It makes me wonder if I'm paranoid. Though since last year I have seen white shadows that are really tall [about 7 feet] and they seem to have a weird outlining shape. I can't see the outline of their face though. But there's about 5 in my room. Sometimes I see others other places. And in bigger rooms I see taller ones. Anyone have anything to say to that?

Thanks for the info Ashmere.
I did not know about these types ❤

Rash'

3 types of salt, so to speek, standard, blessed and charged.
Any type will do like rock, or table salt,

Blessed is done by the church, like Holy Water, which is also handy to keep around.

And then Charged salt is left in the moon light 5 days previous and after a full or new moon,
New moon is said to be better.

Thorn,
About my precious comment,
Contact neednt be a bad thing, if hes not hurting you or damamging things talking to him maybe the best way to understand why he is attached to you or maybe there is a item that you have had since he sarted making himself known,
But if you want to discuss this further please don't hesitate to contact me,
Www.nzpir.co.nz

Thanks
Hayden

Thorn: Iam not suere if this is a bad spirit or good but I don't like the fact that it attacks you when it dosent get it's own way a good spirit from my knowledge dosent atteck I think you should consider asking it if it wants to go into the light and see what responce you get but you do need to have it out of your life as it will only take over every aspect of your life. You should maybe seek the help of a priest who is well versed in these matters or a good psychic make sure you do some reserch on them first as there are a lot of fakes out there but do try to help this spirit to cross over if it's just an earthbound spirit it will want to cross over when it feels the warmth and peace of the light surrounding it you must reassure it that it will be back with it's loved ones and that there is no danger going into the light hope everything works out for you keep me posted take care and may the light of the great spirit be with you allways ❤ 😊 😊...

Rash' I sent you an e-mail to pull this topic before it starts Clogging the Posts.

Sorry I heard many people say those things. That is really silly though. I only had a brief encounter with an incubus some years aback. Nothing bad happened. But I believe there are good and evil incubi. I probably encountered the good one.

My Dear Rash'...No, that is a "common" misconception. Do -I- know for certain? Ofcourse not, I've never sat down, and chatted with one. But- the "common" Beliefe, and Mind you. I think it is wrong. Is that a incubus or succubus, will harvest the seed of a mortal man and deposit it elsewhere: As well as Drain the life force of the person the are haveing intercourse with: Yes. The "Common" belife is it can be fatal.- But as my previous "rant" was trying to point out is, the common misconception, and the truth can be blured by what somone is taught. Sorry if it is only getting more confusing...Here, let me put it this way. The "Common" belief of lucifer is that he is a evil over lord hell bent on dystroying mankinds souls... Now Rash' is that a misconception blured by what we were taught? Or is that truth?...it is all in the Eye of the beholder. So when people. INCLUDING me, Give you Advise, and this goes for anyone reading this. Take it with a Grain of salt. Nothing is Absolute truth, or fiction.

Ashmere
I would like to know the difference between salt and charged salt.

Kardagen
I did not know that incubi could actually suck out our life force. I am assuming that means that they can be fatal. 😐

thorn dear you didn't get me. I am a year younger than you 😊 but that's not the point:P actually I was talking about the future. Ok for now think that the entity is good. But since its attached to you so much. I don't think it will like it at all when you get that special someone in your life. Think what might happen in the future when you get married and the entities still there? You shouldnt worry much about yourself. But worry about your husband. Bad things might happen to him. 😢

Thorn; from my understanding. And keep in mind I have never had an experience with such a entity, there are a lot of ifs, and buts regarding both succubi and incubus. A lot of misconceptions and demonizing. Certainly they may be evil, they may not be, they could suck out our life force through sexual intercourse. They may not. They could be tricking you. Or they could be legitamatly caring. WE don't know. For all the talk of knowing and understanding its all guess work. Certainly it maybe an educated guess but its still a guess. The massive controversy that comes with this subject. Can be idealy seen through the comments on various other incubus/sucubus stories where the entities never HARMED the person with the experience. Or case and point. Sorry to bring it up Rash' but look at her story " my angel Lucifer " you want to talk about misconceptions and zealotness read some of the comments on her story. She -knows- the entity visiting her is not bad. But attach the name Lucifer and we automaticly jump down her throat. The same goes for your own experience. Our understanding of these entities is severly blinded by what we are taught... My appologies in advance to the moderators if my comments start another arguement... But I feel it needed saying.

Sounds very interesting,
Just remember that just because he is seen as being black and cold doesn't mean that he is "evil".
Most spirits are just like spoilt children, just wanting attention,

If he is becoming to much of a pain, try putting blessed or charged salt in a line around your bed, if in fact he is a spirit he shouldnt be able to cross this line.

If you want to discuss some other options regarding communication flick me an email from my site nzpir[dot]co[dot]nz

Thanks
Hayden

Awesome. I am going to order the book. I am very accustomed to hearing negative things about this goddess. You are the first to actually shed a positive light on her.
That is why I guess research is always good.
Thanks ❤

Rashidah, feel free tp print that out. If Goddess mythology is an interesting subject to you, then that book I mentioned is a good resource. It gives a brief description of several different Goddesses, and how their myths have changed over time.

Thorn and sees
It is not your fault that the entity decided to communicate with you all. So I do not see it as sin.
These entities tend to latch on to people they favor 😊

oh b.t.w DO believe in god! 😊
And its not my fault that it comuinicated with me.

hi

Im 13 and iv had simmiler experiance,
Ever since I was little I have seen a man standing in my doorway. When I was little acording to my mum, I would talk to a spicific spot in my doorway. He would take his hat off to me then just stand there watching me. I got my house blessed a few weeks ago because I became unable to sleep in my room, every time I walked in I felt like someone was trying to push me and when I was lying in my bed it was as though someone was pushing on my neck. This guy who was standing in my doorway was my friend and seemed to protect me but because I welcomed him... Maybe it let other "things" think they were aloud to come in and they were bad I'm sure off it.
Just be careful becuase one of my friends hav come across a spirit who needed atenion all the time and it did get ugly as days passed.

You undertand that you are continuously committing the sin of necromancy. God forbids his children to communicate with any spirit other than the Holy Spirit. So you need to stop that immediately. You are already showing strong signs of oppression. You wrote 3 or 4 times that it would get mad when you ignore it so you have to pay attention to it so it will not be mad. The problem is now that you have acknowledge it and accepted by allowing it to stay. Guess what, you cannot get rid of it now. Not without the help of clergy. Do it now.

kardagen, it doesn't have to be sexual harrasment to be an inccubus? I thought they had to have sex in a physical form to be considered inccubus, can you please explain?

rhondaskppr, Thank you so much for your prayers. I know they'll help a lot. 😊 Yes, I've already emailed PrinessLotus about it, I think she can help. Well... I hope she can help. 😁

Darkness, you know your right, I don't really care about him bothering me... Up to an extent, but if I get married? I don't want him bothering my husband. Thanks for the input, it gave me something else to think about.

from the way you have described this "friend " (spirit one) of yours, I have absolutely no idea why he was allowed to be around for so long. If I was you, I'd have either gone insane from the torture, or taken heed of people and called an exorcist.

Take care, but I say you're headed for a difficult life. 😐 😐

Hmmm... Punching and choking you... That doesn't sound good at all 😢. It might be friendly and all that, but keep in mind that an evil entity will do anything to trick you. A good spirit will never choke you just because you ignore it 😊. Don't be afraid of it and be prepared for anything:). Keep that optimistic attitude going but try to see the real side of things when it comes to your "companion":P.

Badjuujuu
That is a very interesting study.
Do you mind if I print your post and use it in my research studies?
If not I will understand.
❤

Thorn, I am so glad to see you are taking a pro-active attitude about this. It won't be easy, but hang in there and be strong.
A little info on the root of the name "Lillithia". From Maiden, Mother, and Crone, D.J. Conway.
"Lillith was the Feminine Principle of the universe. The patriarchal writers of the Bible cut Her from their history, but She was called Adam's first wife. Tradition says that Lillith left Adam because he demanded full control of sexual positions. Originally, this goddess ruled over pregnancy and sexual love, with the owl as Her symbol. Patriarchy changed Her into a demoness who preyed on pregnant women and newborns. It is possible that the name Lillith came from the Sumero-Babylonian goddess Belit-ili or Belili. A tablet from Ur, about 2,000 BCE, mentions the name Lillake."
Thought that might be of interest 😊

Thorn ~

"Lillithia" was a user name I chose for an online fantasy game once, because I thought it was very pretty. I first learned of the name after meeting a friend on an oekaki with the same user name. After I used it for the online game, it kind of stuck with me. Very recently I did read an article called "Who is Lillith?" I read she was screech owl in one story, but supposedly she was in many different stories from many cultures and religions. I didn't finish the article though.

Well, it's good that your understanding your situation a little better. Truthfully, whether this entity is good or bad doesn't change the fact that spending your life with a ghost that can make physical contact is not "normal", and can lead to unhealthy... "situations".

i think its a demon, well, I'm no expert, I'm just basing my opion from a friend of mine, who describe a demon the way you did describe your... What? Hmmm... Companion, right,:) anyway try putting rock salts on your door the way Dean and Sam (supernatural) do when they trap spirit or demon so that he can't enter:p the problem is... He may get mad when you out of the room, hehe... Ahh... What am I saying, Graaah... Thanks for sharing this story:) take care always...

-Ayasegawa Yumichika

No-XVIII: I never said it was evil, and that's the exact connotation that I was reffering to; no it didn't -have- to be a sexual harassment to be an incubus. Do you -have- to be sexual with someone you care about? Entities are as diverse and different as people and the planes.

Oh WoW... So this demons been with you since I believe you said 11ish? I'm the type that would rather be by myself to. I'm almost 27 now, married with 2 kids and I'm still like that. I was just never a people person if you know what I'm trying to get at but this dark "thing"...nope! I'm sorry you was that lonely at the time for this demon to take advantage of you. It makes me so mad. I will so pray that you can and will banish this evil from your world and pray that God will send you angels to help protect you, your family and friends. I don't know what to say. Just PLEASE be careful. If I was in your place I would e~mail PrinessLotus. Please update us so we know your doing ok and is safe. God bless you!

Hi Thorn: Not to discourage you but I think this entity is only going to cause problems for you in the future, your friend is an observer and is looking in on your situation from the outside and from what you say she says it is not good. I would take that message quite seriously, I understand you don't want to let it go because of your feelings for it, but think about your future what about when your married? This is only my opinion and I hope whatever you do works out well for you. 😁

Thank you for sharing.

Dan

Well, I'm just really concerned about you, baby gurl. I'm glad you didn't get put off by my comment. But yes I do believe it's a pretty powerful comment. I love the fact that you have recognize the fact that you are lonely & you are spending more time with "Alice". The Lord showed me a lot about you & most things I won't post on here to respect your privacy. So hit me up, hunny. Again my e-mail is

Butterflygreen08[at]aim.com

And I do understand what you said about your folks being basically "Hallmark" Christians. I totally understand. Well & I do agree that he is a coward. He just causes me to feel slimy when I pray for you & he had bad ulterior motive, it's NOT pretty. He hates you. Hunny. But I DON'T! Hope to hear from you soon, girl. Peace.

~LSD~

P.S. I need you to say a name for me out loud & let me know via e-mail the reaction or your feeling when you say this name. The name is "URIAH" Let me know, doll ❤

princessLotus_ Okay your comment was beyond awesome, you seem to know things that my best friend has just this week managed to get me to see, she's been working on me for awhile. I go to a big church, and though the Priest is an amazing man, who knows everyone despite how big the church is, he is only one man, and I hate bothering him with any problems of mine. And my parents...okay, I know this has nothing to do with a persons character. But, they're Christmas and Easter Christians... You know? So I just... I don't feel like I can talk to them about this.
This is an entry from a few days ago in my journal, I think it best explains the situation I'm in at this moment in time. ' I can't get mad at him. Alice (made up name) keeps telling me to stop defending him. And it makes me wonder just how much he's messed with my mind. For one, she was listing off the reasons why she doesn't like him, and coward was one of them. And I bristled and ranted over it like she had said that about one of my loved ones. " He's not a coward! He's not! He's brave! And... And nice, he's not a coward!" My reaction and the emotions I felt seemed so...fake, like I was feeling them but I don't feel that way, which just confuses me. And I keep... In my heart I keep taking his side. I just don't know, I don't know. I'm so, so confused right now. ' I want to get rid of him, and at the same time... The idea of getting rid of him upsets me, and is repulsive to me. Oh and yes, I do tend to be lonely, though I've been hanging out with Alice more often now, other then that I tend to be off by my self. But I prefer it that way though, so I don't mind it. 😁
And I can't get mad at what you wrote... What all of you guys wrote, for the most part your saying the same things Alice has been saying, which amazes me cause she knows more about the demon then you all do. Thanks so much.

angeldemon, *giggles* I'm seventeen and I've only had a boyfriend once, so no I'm not married. I haven't seen the movie either... I hate scary movies. I might check it out sometime if it isn't too scary. 😁

Lillithia- Isn't your username the name of Satans wife or something like that? Not really important just curious. Your right about the whole him being one of those deceitful entities, and thank God for my best friend finally being able to drill it into my head, and well your guys comments are sort of making her message even more clearer. ^^, thanks for the input.

BadJuuJuu, heh, cute name. Anyways, I'm not very confident... So even though I could talk too my parish priest about it... I just, I don't want to be treated like a crazy person. I trust that my bestfriend will be understanding about it... But other then that... Not so much. And you can say what you want to say. I won't get mad. You sound like you actual care what happens to me, which comming from a stranger, is very sweet. Thank you.

Kardagen- Yeah, I've mused around with the idea of him being a incubus type entity... For reasons I sorta... Edited out of the story and push into the back of my mind. Don't really like talking about it. But, I think it's less he's actually doing it, and more of a mind game type thing. So that doesn't really qualify him as an incubus, I think, I'm not an expert either. But he's definatly a demon, I've come to terms with that these past two weeks. Thanks for the comment!

First off, if you are Christian, why may I ask are you letting this demon control you & deceive you, hunny? You need to talk to your youth group leader. You need to not let this thing over come you. It has already physically harmed you! It makes no difference if it hurt or not, it's wrong. You said that he has been around for years, do your parents know about this or does he not reveal him self to them? I bet if he did they would see the truth like your friend see's & get rid of him quick style. I'm a pastor & I work with women & teens a whole lot. Are you lonely? Baby girl I really encourage you to start praying when he comes around, don't feel sorry for minute he is LYING TO YOU! He is going to try to make you feel bad for trying to get rid of him or ignoring him, he doesn't want anything good for you he wants to isolate you. He wants death & darkness for you. I promise. I could care less if anyone disagrees with me. I know what is going on & I want it to stop because you do not deserve to be deceived by the enemy. I will continue to pray for you. If you want some one to talk to who won't judge you or attack you with the bible you can hit me up. I know this comment I'm leaving is pretty powerful. But I get very protective over people that the enemy is trying to take a hold of. I'm NOT mad at you, I care about you & your life & happiness. Please, if you don't talk to me, do talk to your youth leader & get some prayer? Bless you & yours. Much love, sweetie ❤

Butterflygreen08[at]aim.com

~LSD~

ummm. Thorn. Did you see the movie "paranormal activity"? Its off topic but are you married? I am not telling you to get rid of the entity as hes your friend now 😉 but I think you should figure out a way to convince your new friend to get along with your to be husband. Or maybe, MAYBE things might get ugly as days pass.
Now don't be scared. I am just pointing a future possibility 😊

I'm under the impression that it is one of those deceitful entities. Many times I have read and heard about ghosts that had unusual attachments to people, and although they would lash out sometimes, they tried to look friendly. In the end, they are just feeding off the people they attach too, and if you try to separate from them, or others think that you should be separated from them, they get very angry. Things like this can go very bad. It can lead to physical harm and sometimes even possession. The thing that gets me is how you described his "appearance." Typically, being surrounded by blackness doesn't sound too good, but I'm not an expert. Also, having his face covered by a hood would also seem quite frightening, you never know what "face" is hiding behind the disguise.

Well, if you are to continue this "relationship", just make sure to stay in control! Never let it think that it has you under it's thumb.

I think you need help. Serious help. Have you talked to your religious leader about this? Physical attacks such as choking are not part of a normal haunting. There is so much more I'd like to say, but it would come out sounding very rude. Listen to your friend. She may be more correct than you want to admit.

Kardagen (Its just my opinion) but wouldn't incubus like sexually harass someone and there's not much prove that he's evil I mean yeah Thorns best friend doesn't like him and he doesn't like Thorns best friend, well its like a Cat and Dog relationship. He's probably a very lonely spirit. Couldn't you convince him to move on? He should y'know, move on to the next world or something.

Thorn... Sorry about the incomplete post, I lean toward the possibility of it being a incubus type entity. Thus the reason I sudjested succubused's input. I under stand the negative connotation that brings to most peoples mind but only you can really make up your mind.

Thorn, I'm no expert but maybe sucubused... I know I spelt that wrong, will come by and offer so input. That's one of our residents here and a rather knowledgeable one.